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NEWS: PlayStation Plus Merges With PlayStation Now; Gets New Subscription Tiers, Features in June




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ZelosZoidberg



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:06 am Reply with quote
While this is nice it's not as good or even close to Gamepass. Main problems being it's old games, streaming/cloud for good portion of it, no day 1 first party titles and lack of PC support (download wise). And while the number of titles is good Gamepass has over 450ish titles even through their marketing says around 100. Sorry for being a negative nancy Sad
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:05 am Reply with quote
Overall, this is unimpressive. It's just putting two subscriptions together under the better-known name. Same price, same offerings. Heck, they still aren't interested in finding a way to get PS3 emulation to something that you can download. In concept, I get why they won't be doing day 1 access for their first-party games since those are still the biggest selling point for Playstation overall, and reportedly, that quality has come at the cost of ballooning budgets. But as a customer, it's hard not to prefer Gamepass's approach that gives you the day 1 option to try before you buy.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:11 pm Reply with quote
ZelosZoidberg wrote:
While this is nice it's not as good or even close to Gamepass. Main problems being it's old games, streaming/cloud for good portion of it, no day 1 first party titles and lack of PC support (download wise). And while the number of titles is good Gamepass has over 450ish titles even through their marketing says around 100. Sorry for being a negative nancy Sad


No what you said wasn’t really wrong. This new system is pretty jank (to say nothing is overly expensive). Like it is neat at the least that you’ll have access to PSP titles (but no Vita ones). But unless this back catalog is going to also include games that were not available on the PS3 & PS4 that’s already one issue with this.

The lack of newer releases as part of the service is also another but they could “hopefully” reconcile that eventually by putting them on there.

quote="Greed1914"]Heck, they still aren't interested in finding a way to get PS3 emulation to something that you can download.[/quote]


I don’t think it’s something they’re not interested in but don’t yet know how to work presumably the lack of PS3 related tech is the roadblock.
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jdnation



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:32 pm Reply with quote
I just want disc-supported backwards compatibility for PSOne-2 titles. 3 when it's feasible. There is no excuse not to have emulation solutions.
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arcthenomad



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:36 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
ZelosZoidberg wrote:
While this is nice it's not as good or even close to Gamepass. Main problems being it's old games, streaming/cloud for good portion of it, no day 1 first party titles and lack of PC support (download wise). And while the number of titles is good Gamepass has over 450ish titles even through their marketing says around 100. Sorry for being a negative nancy Sad


No what you said wasn’t really wrong. This new system is pretty jank (to say nothing is overly expensive). Like it is neat at the least that you’ll have access to PSP titles (but no Vita ones). But unless this back catalog is going to also include games that were not available on the PS3 & PS4 that’s already one issue with this.

The lack of newer releases as part of the service is also another but they could “hopefully” reconcile that eventually by putting them on there.

quote="Greed1914"]Heck, they still aren't interested in finding a way to get PS3 emulation to something that you can download.



I don’t think it’s something they’re not interested in but don’t yet know how to work presumably the lack of PS3 related tech is the roadblock.[/quote]
And yet RPCS3 exists.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:51 am Reply with quote
arcthenomad wrote:

quote="Greed1914"]Heck, they still aren't interested in finding a way to get PS3 emulation to something that you can download.



I don’t think it’s something they’re not interested in but don’t yet know how to work presumably the lack of PS3 related tech is the roadblock.[/quote]
And yet RPCS3 exists.[/quote]

Exactly. I don't doubt that the cell processor creates technical hurdles beyond what other Sony systems do. That was a common complaint during its time. But, I do doubt that it's as difficult as they make it out to be. People have gotten emulation working on PCs that do not use cell processors. Sony has PS3 titles available through streaming, which would mean they are running on something on Sony's end, and I kind of doubt Playstation Now was running on a bunch of cell processors. If hobbyists can figure out how to make it work, it's hard to believe that the company that made the technology in the first place can't.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:37 pm Reply with quote
arcthenomad wrote:

And yet RPCS3 exists.


I wasn’t aware people were still pining for PS3 emulation especially when the issue with the 4&5 to some is that you can’t do like the Xbox One and use the physical discs. I also presume if this is anything like the PS2 emulators of old you need a good computer to run it.

Greed1914 wrote:
If hobbyists can figure out how to make it work, it's hard to believe that the company that made the technology in the first place can't.


Given how fans have shown to be capable of doing things with games that the owners of said games have shown to be incapable or incompetent at doing, certainly is possible.
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