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Leebo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 am Reply with quote
I couldn't watch an episode of Kimi ni Todoke without grinning like an idiot the entire time. Sawako is great.

Meh.
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zawa113



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:39 am Reply with quote
Whelp, doesn't sound like I have a reason to get the YYH movie thingy. I have the entire series, and while I really like the show, I don't think I'm a devoted enough fan to get this from the sound of it. Can't say I like the idea of a series of "Best of"s (I don't mind if they're a bonus thing, but a separate DVD? Seems kinda useless to me), especially not when I already own the damn show. Seems like I've just saved myself $23 there.

I've already pre-ordered Gasaraki on the basis that I have seen three shows by its director, Ryosuke Takahashi (Blue Gender, VOTOMs, and Flag, in that order) and loved each and every one of them (well maybe not the animation for Blue Gender, which was often kinda sucky, especially in the first half, nor the Funimation eco packaging, I'm not even gonna watch the movie, but I did really enjoy the story and characters for the series), and have liked two series from the assistant director Goro Taniguchi (Planetes and Infinite Ryvius, didn't like Code Geass, although that came way after the other two). So I'm mostly doing this on good faith, I can most definitely see Ryosuke Takahashi not being for everyone, but so far he's impressed me enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully it will arrive sometime this week via Amazon and I can start watching it right away!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:02 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I'd have to agree with Erin that your opinion of KnT does hinge on how you feel about Sawako. I adored her, so no surprise I adored this series. To a certain extent most series hinge on how a viewer feels about the protagonist(s), but I'd say that principle is even more in effect for KnT.
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Red Fox of Fire



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:19 am Reply with quote
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I don't think she's “discovered” boys yet.


I lol'd. Good stuff.
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osakaedo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:23 am Reply with quote
Put me in the pro-KnT camp. I'd easily watch that over RedLine any day of the week. Sawako is way more luvable than Funky Boy.
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LaFreccia



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:37 am Reply with quote
I started off liking KnT, but grew so frustrated (the slap some sense scene was running in my mind as well) that I dropped it before finishing the first season. The show is so internal (and Sawako is so clueless) that it was like watching grass grow.
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Moonsaber



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:52 am Reply with quote
Add another vote to the Pro KnT camp. I adore the series, it's one of those that relaxes me and puts a big smile on my face. Sorry you didn't like it so much Erin.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:59 am Reply with quote
I'm also in the pro-KnT camp. Loved Sawako and those shojo bubbles are addicting too.
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Meygaera



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:02 am Reply with quote
LaFreccia wrote:
I started off liking KnT, but grew so frustrated (the slap some sense scene was running in my mind as well) that I dropped it before finishing the first season. The show is so internal (and Sawako is so clueless) that it was like watching grass grow.


My thoughts exactly. Ironic how I just posted in a Crunchyroll forum about anime that I dropped/stopped watching about 10 minutes ago before I came here and read this forum. Here's what I had to say about Kimi ni Todoke.

"I enjoyed the first 26 episodes a lot. I felt like it was cute, slow paced because the author wanted to develop their feelings naturally and somewhat realistically. I mean by the last episode you could tell they both really DID like each other. Except when the second season rolls around, their maturity drops like 5 years of age and they are back at square one where they can't even talk to each other. I mean why did I even bother watching the first season if they are just going to undo all their progress? How can both characters be so immature and insecure that some of their misunderstandings are bordering on a level of SCHOOL RUMBLE's ridiculousness. Except the difference here is that School Rumble uses those misunderstandings for a comedic effect, and succeeds at it. While Kimi to Boku is for, I don't know a dramatic effect and fails miserably."
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steev-sama



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:11 am Reply with quote
Kimi ni Todoke is easily one of the best romance anime around. It is disappointing to see it get only a "rental" rating. Even when the show is frustrating to watch, it is the good kind of frustration. Like how you know they should get together but just don't.

Redline is a stunning masterpiece.
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050795



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:18 am Reply with quote
I’m glad to see Redline at its rightful place as shelf worthy (not that I wasn't expecting it to be). I have to say that the visual style and just the overall over the topness reminded me a lot of Gurren Lagann.
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Maize Hughes



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:20 am Reply with quote
Erin,

I see Kimi ni Todoke as pure, 200 proof, distilled Shojo. I also see it as "true" - true emotions, in situations stripped of all extraneous detail. Learning how to make friends? Yes, it is like that.* Betrayal by someone you thought you trusted, yes, it is like that. No complications, no divided motives, no real-world drama, supernatural action, implausible fanservice, or wacky hijinks, intrude.

This the b-plot love story in all the shows we love for their drama, supernatural action, or wacky hijinks, done right. You know all those shows that insert the de riguer romance plot, but never bother to resolve it, or only do so at the very end, after introducing a series of increasingly unlikely possible alternative pairings? Isn't that annoying? Kimi ni Todoke is the antidote.

And, yeah, I love Sawako too. She's adorable. And, she answers the question "what would a real 'pure hearted, true shojou, girl do in a "real" setting?" (Answer: wreak unintentional havoc where ever she goes!) This has consequences for the rest of the genre: for instance in Fruits Basket, Tohru Honda's story seems riddled with unlikely coincidences by comparison. Shojo manga-ka are going to have to step up their game, I think.

A question for everyone:
Is this going to be the only release, or is there some kind of budget version on it's way as well? I can't wait to buy the blessed thing, but I can't decide if the extras are worth it.

M.H.

*seriously, it is, or at least it can be. Mind you, most of us go through that experience a bit younger than her, and some manage to skip it altogether, but my point is that the 'emotional truth' of her experiences is sound.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:25 am Reply with quote
@ Maize Hughes - yes, NISA does bring out non-premium versions of its releases after a certain time period: normally when the premium editions have sold out at the wholesale level.
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Crisha
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:48 am Reply with quote
Ultimately the reasons I decided not to buy the premium edition and just wait for the standard edition was due to the limited artwork on the box (very simple and sweet but nothing to go gaga over) and the material contained within the book.

I hate to sound like a nag since I really do love the quality of NISA's releases, but a memory/picture/episode summary book written in character from Sawako's POV sounds more like something a fan would upload to DeviantArt or one of those old fansites people would put together for their favorite series and characters. (Anipike anyone? All those Angelfire, etc. host links that have expired and you now have to use the Wayback Machine to view? Oh wait, am I showing my age?Anime hyper) I'd rather have something like what Nozomi provides in Revolutionary Girl Utena or Victorian Romance Emma - interviews (producer, director, writer, voice actors, music director, whatever), historical details, background artwork, sketches, etc. That's stuff that a fan doesn't have easy access to - stuff that requires research or that only the industry can provide. Any regular joe schmoe can take a few screencaps, organize them in a pretty way, and make comments on said screencaps in a certain character's "voice". Anyone can do episode or character summaries.

The only premium release I own from NISA is Katanagatari, and it's worth its premium status from the gorgeous artwork alone. The fact that every episode summary in the book comes provided with a full-page, stylized, detailed, colorful, drool-worthy image makes the book totally worth it. That it included translations for every song, some character art/sketches, and a glossary of terms was an additional bonus (yes, much of those can be found on the interwebs, but they were a nice bonus to have grouped together in such a nice package).

So, I really do like your releases, NISA. I just wish some had better content. Even FUNi is getting on the bandwagon (i.e. on the Princess Jellyfish limited edition release we're getting the following special features: Princess Jellyfish Heroes Parts 1-4, Go, Sisterhood Explorers! Parts 1-6, Tsukimi and Jiji's Octopus Tour, The Princess Jellyfish Field Guide, Episodes 1 & 11 Commentary, Promotional Videos, Textless Songs, Trailers). Is it a quality book? No, but it's content I'd prefer over episode summaries or character guides or memory picture books.
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mannyperson



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 pm Reply with quote
willag wrote:
I hate to sound like a nag since I really do love the quality of NISA's releases, but a memory/picture/episode summary book written in character from Sawako's POV sounds more like something a fan would upload to DeviantArt or one of those old fansites people would put together for their favorite series and characters.


I bought it, and the screencaps are actually very deviant art-ish (as you said). But it's only half of the book's content. IMO the other half is what you'd get the book for: the beautiful background art. Nice watercolors, etc. The book itself is pretty high-quality. Even though I absolutely love KnT, I can totally see why this is rentworthy. Definitely agree that the first episode's all you need to decide if this series is for you.

And dunno if someone answered this, but you received this in January instead of October because when NISA decided to include a blu ray copy, they had to push back the release date to then.

And yeah, even as a person who rewatches the entire YYH series every year, I found this collection to be skipable.
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