Forum - View topicMiyazaki's greatness ( His American imports)
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dannavy85
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After some researching I found some of the other cartoons that the great Miyazaki did before he really became known to American audiances. Perhaps you will all be shocked as to how far back his influence in America goes. Remember these?
Frosty the Snowman Frosty Returns Kid Power The Night Before Christmas The Hobbit The Return of the King The Last Unicorn Santa Claus is coming to town The year without a Santa Claus The Little Drummer Boy Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer Rudolph's shiny new year Rudolph's Christmas in July All of them Ranken Brothers classics made by a Japanese/American collaberation and in every one is the name Hayao Miyazaki. |
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Cassandra
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And your source for that?
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dannavy85
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and you ask why?
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Tenchi
 Posts: 4664 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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Oh, I can certainly believe it, since Rankin-Bass did most of the actual animation for their holiday specials in Japan, but I doubt Miyazaki had any actual creative input.
Dunno what he would have done on the stop-motion animation stuff, though. |
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Cassandra
Posts: 1356 Location: Birdsboro, PA |
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Because when you make claims like that...you're supposed to be able to prove it. And as a note...I'm not talking about the animation stuff (Last Unicorn), I'm talking more about the stop action stuff (Rudolph, Frosty...) |
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dannavy85
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You forget that in some of the claymation actions, there were cartoonish mixes, such as in Santa Claus is coming to Town, and the artist for those was Miyazaki.
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dannavy85
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One of my many sources...
http://utd500.utdallas.edu/~hairston/lastunicorn.html |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
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let me quote your source:
I don't think it could be any clearer |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4664 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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I can easily believe that Miyazaki, as a young animator, was a member of the large team that worked on the specials, but I need some sort of proof for me to believe that he was anything but "in-between lackey #193".
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Former ANN Editor in Chief
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here's a copy of the credits for The Hobbit: Animation Coordinator: Toru Hara Animation Supervisor: Tsuguyuki Kubo Character Designer: Tsuguyuki Kubo Backgrounds: Minoru Kishida Animation Director: Katsuhisa Yamada, Koichi Sasaki Animation: Kazuyuki Kobayashi, Tadakatsu Yoshida, Hidemi Kubo, Yukiyoshi Hane, Hidetoshi Kaneko*, Kazuko Itoh Associate Producer: Masaki Iizuka * I -thought- it was "Hidetoshi Kakeko", but my tape was blurry on that title card, so i might be wrong. We -do- know that a number of Rankin-Bass titles were produced by people who were part of Studio Ghibli, but I don't think Miyazaki himself numbers among those. What sort-of surprised me is that a number of people who worked on Hobbit also worked on Fushigi Eikoden. Heh. |
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ShellBullet
 Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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I just checked my handy-dandy Miyazaki filmography (which I keep next to my bed for quick reference ) and none of these titles appeared in the list. If he was somehow involved with any of them, he certainly did not have any creative input.
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Tiresias
Posts: 353 Location: Illinois, USA |
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I just checked my copy of Santa Claus is Coming to Town, and nowhere did I find the name Hayao Miyazaki. When I have more time tomorrow I'll check my other R/B titles that you listed, most of which I own, but I'm thinking I won't find his name on them.
I think I'm going to have to go with Dan here about your source you posted, in which it says he had nothing to do with the Last Unicorn. What I got from the article was that the animation group that R/B collaborated with in Japan (Topcraft) was later HIRED by Miyazaki and Animage to do Nausicaa. After Nausicaa was made, the core animators for Topcraft were used to help create Ghibli. Miyazaki had nothing to do with R/B other than hiring a group of animator that R/B had used before. The source you gave us was a poor example to support your claim, and did nothing more than completely disprove your initial claim, especially since you haven't provided us with more proof. I personally have 8 of the titles you listed and will check them over as I stated above, but with the flimsyness of what I've seen so far, I doubt I'll find the great Miyazaki's name on any of them, unless you have some hardcore proof that he was "In-betweener #193" or something of the like. |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
Posts: 3817 Location: Montreal |
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Let's sort this list chronologically shall we?
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer (1964) The Little Drummer Boy (1968) Frosty the Snowman (1969) Santa Claus is coming to town (1970) Kid Power (1972) The Night Before Christmas (1974) The year without a Santa Claus (1974) Rudolph's shiny new year (1975) The Hobbit (1977) Rudolph's Christmas in July (1979) The Return of the King (1980) The Last Unicorn (1982) Frosty Returns (1992) Miyazaki's first job in a creative position was in Panda Go Panda (1972) and he was probably at least key animator for a few years prior to that. So while he might have been "in-betweener #193" for Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, it gets doubtful after that and impossible for anything after 1972. So basically, dannavy85, I think you put your foot in your mouth. On the other hand, I think this whole thread is an impressive demonstration of the level of knowledge that can be found on the ANN forums, something I'm very proud of. This ain't no neophyte forum. |
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