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x_Hisoka_x
 Posts: 260 Location: Formerly: Anime_Newcomer |
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I have seen this on other forums and I have never seen it on this one. I think we should allow people to start votes when they post something. For example, if someone posts something like "What anime should I watch next" they can make a list for people to vote on.
One Piece _% Naruto _% Pokemon _% So when people look at the post, and even if they don't feel like posting, they can select one of those options and the % goes up. I think it's an awesome idea. |
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Bleach12
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[EDIT: Next time you agree with someone, please tell all of us why and not just the fact that you agree. Thanks. -TK]
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Space_cowboy64
 Posts: 337 Location: Great Britain...not all that great |
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I know what you mean kinda, and i have to agree with you, this site needs some sort of system like that or something.
Then again how would it work exactly? Would it still be on the general anime discussion? Good idea though space |
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outlawwolf
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I don't think that would too much of a great idea. I can see it now.
Who Thinks Zolo is Cool? Yes? No? Who Thinks Spike is Cool? Yes? No? Who Thinks Faye Valentine is Hot? Yes? No? We already get enough mind numbingly pointless topics from brain dead fans, we don't need them putting up voting systems to see how many other people are just as brainless as they are. |
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opaquescum
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I hate to say I agree with outlaw on that. First off voteing rarely works on any forum I have seen. It is merely used as a form of vindication, and secondly people tend to abuse the mechanic. No it would not be hard to do there are programs out there that will do it, and are non platform specific.
We have a good thing here when people ask for suggestions. Other people have to respond in a well thought out manner. This tells you whos oppinion is really relevant, and who has an oppinion that is not. It is far too much an exploitable mechanic. It rarely if ever gets used properly. To top that all off its a devisive tool. People form up into gangs, and use voteing power to promote what they want or like. Not saying polling cannot be done successfully. It just has to be done in a way that is not abuseable. Perhaps if the moderators had the option to pop in a poll where they feal one might help a discussion along. There are some threads where a well thought out poll dropped in might increase insight into the mindset of the majority of the posters. Not one thats black and white. Needless to say I prefer people posting their votes as it were by writeing their posts. You can get a generally good view for yourself to grade on a curve. Some posters get a high rateing from me others get low ones. In other words if I know for a fact you think out your points, your views are similar to mine, and you take a balanced approach to all things. I am going to give you more credence then the next 8 guys who give a one paragraph reply. Especially if most of those say things like hot,rules,or insert any iconic anime. I have rarely seen polling do anything, but hurt a forum. The only times I have seen it used well is when its in the hands of moderators, and admins. Plus to moderators and admins have shown they are responsible. |
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x_Hisoka_x
Posts: 260 Location: Formerly: Anime_Newcomer |
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If can just be put in the rules to use it appropriately. Just like one liners usually tend to get locked the same can go for this. If someone does start a vote on something like "Is Faye Hot" then it would just get locked by the admin. The majority of people on here are respectable to the rules and aren't brainless and I think this would further help them in certain decisions. I believe it will not hinder posts unless it is used improperly, but will better the posts. But I have to agree with you people are brainless but admins will always deal with them regardless if their being brainless with a post or a voting system. I agree with you Opaquescum when you say that you prefer when people write well thought out replys, but I admit that for me I'm not that great at telling someone about an anime. I'm not that great at getting deep into reasons for liking anime. If I were to respond to one my answer would probably be "Man it's so cool the guy fights really awesome and the music is great" whereas a majority of people on here delve into the deeper the anime and come up with stuff as "The director does a really good job of capturing the emotions. This is one of his greater works. The characters are great and you can really bond with them. You feel like they feel. The atmosphere is great and it sets the mood really well." This system would allow people with lesser english/writing skills to vote on what they feel is the best anime. Just like any idea this one has its pros and its cons but if done correctly I believe this could be a great asset to the forum. |
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outlawwolf
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To address the final part about people who can't formulate a well thought out speach (since I don't feel like cutting and quoting)
I feel that that just then gives people a license to be lazy. Before I started writing on this forum, most of my posts in other threads were 1 word or 1 line answers like "Oh yeah." or "This is a cool show." and thats the end of that. This place forced me to become a better poster and a better writer since I actually have to think about what I want to say thoughtfully. Putting up a poll will end all of that because then it would be just the equivalent of people giving one word or one line answers. Worst of all, you can't even write out your own opinion, you have to conform to whatever the above choices are. Granted, those who write out thoughtful posts will explain their reason for choosing an option, but for people that you described, most will just end up leaving it at filling in a circle and thats all. |
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hentai4me
 Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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just look at the Moe Tournament for how voting is done on this site, its infinately better to do it this way as discussions form, opinions are given and the whole thinsg seems far more personal.
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daxomni
 Posts: 2650 Location: Somewhere else. |
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I don't really get the whole "Moe" thing, so maybe I'm the wrong person to comment, but I honestly felt that the long-term and long-winded 'Moe tournament' was something that only diehard fans could really get into. As something of a fair-weather anime fan, I just didn't have the willpower to research and follow such a long, tedious and ultimately monotonous process. Simple strait up/down votes on internet forums are often biased and sometimes drastically skewed. So what? Do you see other websites and forums giving up on them? Just about every forum I visit has some form of quick poll function people can use to have a little fun or even learn a thing or two about what other posters think. Does that mean every poll is fair and serious? Nope. But I think most of us are mature enough not to read too much into them in the first place. If we wanted some serious results we'd hire some licensed institution to run our polls. Personally, I'd enjoy and encourage the site to consider allowing quick-action polls to help liven up the place a bit. And now for a reality check... It's never going to happen folks. This site is far too deliberate and staid to seriously consider allowing average users to run their own polls. This topic has come up before and it's already been shot down. Regardless of how amusing or insightful a given poll may or may not be, it will simply never come to pass. At least not here. |
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patch
 Posts: 677 Location: New York, NY |
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I think they serve the purpose to gauge a general opinion about a particular thread topic, without forcing someone to post a lengthly comment to voice their opinion.
Of course there is a potential for abuse, but I think as long threads aren't created just for the sake of a having poll, and they are used to suppliment a thread, it would be nice to have. |
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fighterholic
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I think I saw that kind of thing on another anime board. Where there was a bunch of percentages for animes.
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daxomni
Posts: 2650 Location: Somewhere else. |
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If all you want is personal ratings for anime titles broken down by numeric percentages, they already have that right here. Just click on Anime under Encyclopedia over on the left and then select the first character in the name of the title you're curious about and you should see various ratings from previous users. If you want to 'vote' on the quality for a given anime you first have to add the title you want to vote on to your list of watched anime titles and then you can select your level of satisfaction for that particular title. It's a hellish system if you have watched more than a few anime titles, but that's simply how it's done here. |
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Zalis116
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One problem is, if people get too serious and "into" whatever is being voted on, the forums could get spammed or attacked. Those of you who have followed the fansub world for awhile will probably remember one group doing a "Hottest Anime Girl" tournament. First, the main page voting poll got spammed by repeated posts...then, when they moved it to the forums, they got a bunch of new signups, spam, viruses, attempted DOS attacks, and ultimately decided that the tournament wasn't worth it.
I've never missed seeing voting posts on ANN--in fact, before this thread, I had never even thought about it. The Moe Tournament, while long and involved (especially in the early rounds, and even more so if you haven't seen very much moemoe anime), is a good tournament imo because it encourages/requests people to explain their choices. Voting threads with polls allow people to make their vote and leave with no explanation, and in a way are no better than list posts. |
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x_Hisoka_x
Posts: 260 Location: Formerly: Anime_Newcomer |
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All your inputs are good points. But like the Moe Tournament...I looked at some of the characters...I've never heard of any of them in my LIFE! If we have a tournament it should be of tons of different characters. Pit Mugen against Spike. By the way, what is a Moe anime? We should have a tournament where people suggest a host of characters and then you guys make it up and then we'll all vote. And the voting thing would be easier for tournaments because frankly, half the people I would vote for...they would get my vote just for being cooler. I would pick Mugen over Naruto because he's cooler! I can't give you a thought out answer on why...it would be easier if everyday 2 new characters were against eachother and a simple click vote could be way easier then paragraphs and paragraphs of reasons which will just get down to people saying the same damn things over and over.
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opaquescum
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Well to be frank it would, and can never be a fair competition when it comes to the subject matter of anime. There are plenty of barriers. That prevent a even playing field. For instance most people would know mugen, but how many of them know jubei from ninja scroll. Both are pretty popular, but mugen has a decided edge in that more people have gotten to see that character.
Sure you could get a fair comparison going if the characters had gotten equal viewership, but they will not. Even things like timeslots have an effect. Real late time slots for instance. Sure we would love to stay up and watch, but hey we got to get up in the morning, and I already got two SLP tapes going right now alone. Just an example. You are comeing from a pretty biased view in this situation. You expect that everyone visiting these forums has the exact same experience as you. This is not like sports, or videogames. Some people here have hundreds of anime titles in their collection. Some may have a dozen, and may be very dependent on the TV. Even television is not an even playing field. I keep waiting for my local cable to get on the ball, and get it on the lineup, but I have to subside on what on demand gives me. Needless to say competition is all great and fun, but its pointless if the playing field cannot, and probabally will never be even. Anime is expensive, and the fair on television is limited for many. |
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