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v1cious



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:10 pm Reply with quote
http://comipress.com/news/2007/05/29/2017

anyone know more details behind this? all the news sites seem to be in Japanese, but apparently some kid dismembered his mother. i have to admit i'm sort of not surprised something like this would come up eventually. i just started it today, and it's one of the most disturbing manga i've ever read. makes Ichi The Killer look like Hello Kitty.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:15 am Reply with quote
Wikipedia Japan wrote:
事件後の捜索では少年の自宅からはホラー系のDVDが押収され、マリリン・マンソンのDVDもあった。また、殺人をテーマにした本が数冊押収された[33][34]。少年は読書が趣味で自宅には大量に書物があった[35]。『多重人格探偵サイコ』も所有していた。

The bold text is MPD Psycho. Go find out what the underlined name is yourself, and you'll know this is just another "this-and-that made my boy a bad bad person." Rolling Eyes
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:38 am Reply with quote
wow, now Japan's even on the blame Marilyn Manson bandwagon? that's ridiculous.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:24 am Reply with quote
v1cious wrote:
wow, now Japan's even on the blame Marilyn Manson bandwagon? that's ridiculous.


I wasn't aware Japan was ever above human nature.
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Treetastic



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:32 pm Reply with quote
The article does mention the kid going onto cha t rooms asking if MPD Psycho was real... if he wasn't able to figure that out on his own, I'm wondering if he was already having those kinds of thoughts. It's likely. People tend to blame whatever they can.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:54 pm Reply with quote
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anyone know more details behind this? all the news sites seem to be in Japanese, but apparently some kid dismembered his mother. i have to admit i'm sort of not surprised something like this would come up eventually. i just started it today, and it's one of the most disturbing manga i've ever read. makes Ichi The Killer look like Hello Kitty.


Go back and read Ichi again. In terms of graphic content and relentless sadism nothing I've read tops that. Of course if you want emotionally disturbing content I would have to think about it for a while...

As for the news, nothing new really. Like HitokiriShadow said, scapegoating is unfortunately a part of human nature.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:52 am Reply with quote
There were horror movies, a Marilyn Manson DVD (bless his soul in time), and books about murder. Like Kagemusha said, this looks like scapegoating, but did the article actually say anything about MPD Psycho actually being linked?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:06 am Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
Like Kagemusha said, this looks like scapegoating, but did the article actually say anything about MPD Psycho actually being linked?

No, but the mere presence of the book is more than enough for scapegoat hunters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:30 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
No, but the mere presence of the book is more than enough for scapegoat hunters.

Pity that this stuff is targeted so easily like that. Luckily we have Aso on our side.
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smoochy



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:08 pm Reply with quote
I hate scapegoating. Just like with the whole," Did Cho emulate Oldboy?!?!?!111" it's just a load of crap. I haven't yet hired a hooker, and then beat her down with a bat because of Grand Theft Auto, and I haven't heard of many people who have.

Seriously, it's like the media searchs through all the entertainment someone who did something horrible, like the Columbine kids, and then if they find anything that a Amish would find slightly questionable in the eyes of God, they blame it for everything he did.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:35 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
Wikipedia Japan wrote:
事件後の捜索では少年の自宅からはホラー系のDVDが押収され、マリリン・マンソンのDVDもあった。また、殺人をテーマにした本が数冊押収された[33][34]。少年は読書が趣味で自宅には大量に書物があった[35]。『多重人格探偵サイコ』も所有していた。

The bold text is MPD Psycho. Go find out what the underlined name is yourself, and you'll know this is just another "this-and-that made my boy a bad bad person." Rolling Eyes


Actually I believe that Manson was the inspiration for Lucy Monostone, but that's sorta digressing. It's so hard to tell what the link is between violent material and violent behavior is. I mean it's probably safe to say that there is a connection in some way, as in "well if they're predisposed to an interest in this kind of material that might mean they have a violent personality," but I agree that it's never enough to say that it "caused" the behavior. Heck I read MPD Psycho and I find it fascinating, but that doesn't mean I'd imitate the murders or anything.

(As kind of an aside) Eji Otsuka has some interesting takes on otaku culture and what might, hypothetically, lead to the kind of behavior he depicted in MPD Psycho. I should really go and dig up his "atogaki" at the end of the Lucy Monostone book that I picked up...

As for Ichi the Killer I'm almost in awe of Takashi Miike making both the Ichi the Killer movie and the MPD Psycho TV series. That takes guts. Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Hey, at least you don't have to put up with British tabloids. Here's a well rounded arguement from England's bestselling (I think) newspaper:

Quote:
'Murder copied from a comic'

By VIRGINIA WHEELER
COPS were last night probing the possibility that comic-book fan Ichihachi copied Lindsay’s grisly murder from a CARTOON story. Police found piles of violent Japanese Manga comics at the suspect’s flat. The weekly cartoon-books — which are as popular as newspapers in Japan — frequently feature stories of young women and schoolgirls being raped and tortured.
Lindsay told friends in Tokyo that she found the comics “disgusting”.
Her horrific death mimics a storyline used in Hentai Manga, a violent porn version of the books.
A police source last night said: “Ichihachi is clearly a Manga fan. He had a lot of books in his apartment and downloads of them on his computer.
“We are looking at the possibility that the horrible manner of Lindsay’s death — the burying in a bath of sand — is a copycat crime from one of these comics.”
Fellow English teachers Toby Wheeler, 30, said: “Lindsay, like most westerners, found them disgusting.
“They’re cartoon porn and Japanese men get a real kick out of them.
“The worst thing about Manga is that there is no comeuppance for the violent ‘heroes’ in the stories. “They commit these horrific rapes and murders, but there is no retribution


I play many violent games, have been watching 18 certificate films for years and am in the process of rereading battle royale. My parents must be screwed...oh wait. I fail to see how reading/watching something violent transforms you from a normal person to a killer...perhaps there are other factors at work?...

If I ever go on a killing spree (at least one person at my school thinks i might one day Shocked ) I'll clear my room of everything and fill it with childrens nursery rhyme books. See what happens then...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:04 pm Reply with quote
Truered wrote:
If I ever go on a killing spree (at least one person at my school thinks i might one day Shocked ) I'll clear my room of everything and fill it with childrens nursery rhyme books. See what happens then...


I can just see the headlines:

"Mother Goose Made Me Do It"

"Peter Peter Pumpkin-Eater Copycat Strikes Again!"

"Old Woman In Shoe Wanted For Questioning"

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:10 pm Reply with quote
What I feel more disturbing is: while we might laugh at those scapegoat hunters at this murder case, I'm sure many of who have posted in this very thread would become one when there's a child molesting case. Rolling Eyes

To all child molester wannabe: before you "cross the line," please replace all your lolicon manga, anime and games with World Masterpiece Theaters. Twisted Evil
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abunai
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:16 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
To all child molester wannabe: before you "cross the line," please replace all your lolicon manga, anime and games with World Masterpiece Theaters. Twisted Evil


Headline:

"Police confirm that child molester was obsessed with Heidi cartoon."

(...and don't get me started on A Dog of Flanders)

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