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Stark700



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:12 pm Reply with quote
Definitely felt the ending was a bit controversial...

Otherwise, I think this show is fine actually and highly entertaining with great music. The story could work a bit but maybe season 2 could throw in some new surprises?
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FenixFiesta



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:15 pm Reply with quote
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Definitely felt the ending was a bit controversial...

The ending was fine, it is the follow up to said ending that is going to be the real killer, especially with just news about the promo shots.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:16 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, I have a lot of problems with this show, which is made all the more frustrating by the fact that I want to like it.

First and foremost, as the review stated, the characters don't grow, and no where is this more apparent than with the terrible main male lead, Inaho. He's this empty blank faced void of a character, that plagues the mecha genre to no end. This is made worse by the fact that Inaho literally takes on the martian invasion by himself more or less. It's really bad because there are other characters in this show who could have made for great leads. Slaine is a outsider to the conflict no matter who he sides with, think of all the great themes the show could have gone into if they really focused on him? Or how about the older solder with PTSD? How about talking about what it means to be a soldier or the neglect of soldiers in peace time?

That said, it does....somewhat redeem itself with the ending. That said, spoiler[screw this show if Inaho and the Princess come back because of some goddamn space magic.]
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FierceAlchemist



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:20 pm Reply with quote
I watched the show week to week on Crunchyroll and it did enough to make me look forward to it everytime. I'll agree that the middle slows down and Inaho is hard to relate to, but it really picked up at the end. Looking forward to the second season where hopefully there will be more focus on Slain.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:44 pm Reply with quote
Hellwarden wrote:

That said, spoiler[screw this show if Inaho and the Princess come back because of some goddamn space magic.]
spoiler[Oh they definitely are coming back.] [1] [2]
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gedata



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:48 pm Reply with quote
fireaxe wrote:
Hellwarden wrote:

That said, spoiler[screw this show if Inaho and the Princess come back because of some goddamn space magic.]
spoiler[Oh they definitely are coming back.] [1] [2]

spoiler[Part of me looks forward to whatever absurd method they use to bring back Inaho. Hopefully it's not the "bullet grazed him" cliche. There's no good way to write yourself out of such a climax, so might as well not even bother.]
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:55 pm Reply with quote
The show wasn't terrible, but it came in FAR below expectations. The hype was huge with this one, and everyone is constantly claiming that anything Gen Urobuchi works on is going to be the next greatest show of all time. That, plus the fact that this show had an amazing animation budget meant that anything other than greatness was a failure of sorts.

Well, I wouldn't even say that this show was that much above average. I felt like it was a serviceable action show.

(1) Inaho was a terrible lead. He made Kirito from SAO look like the best, most well developed and well rounded character ever created. Hell, if Reiki Kawahara had been brought into this after a few episodes and simply killed off Inaho and transported Kirito into the male lead spot, I'd probably bump my grade of this show up a full letter.

(2) The Slaine torture porn show was just relentless. The fact that Slaine was a much better developed character than Inaho, yet kept getting kicked around constantly and literally tortured really made me wonder if one of the writers knew some guy named Slaine in high school and just wanted to make him suffer. I can only watch Slaine's balls be put in a vise so many times before I just roll my eyes and start to wish I was watching something else.

(3) The narrative fell apart fairly quickly. Well, that's being generous because a lot of people complained that the show's initial backstory didn't even make sense (with the Martians being earth people who just transplanted there like 50 years ago, and now they are suddenly an entire different race of people with like hundreds of years of cultural/social development and generations of separation from their Earth roots. That was ridiculous.) But yea, even after that strange start with the story, things fell apart quickly as the entire central conflict became largely irrelevant well before the final episode, and nothing took its place. At this point, the story seems in some kind of strange, directionless limbo.

(4) A lot of the character interactions and dialogue made no sense. (The whole Rayet/Asseylum incident and the multiple Inaho/Slaine incidents). Characters with potential were wasted, like Rayet, Marito, Magbaredge, and Inaho's sister. Overall, the show seemed less dedicated to building a cohesive story with strong character dynamics, and instead totally focused on giving us crazy plot twists and reversals week after week. This forced a lot of the characters to act strangely in order to allow for such twists and reversals.

There are a lot of other things I could say... certainly, the whole aspect of Inaho being the greatest military mind on Earth and taking on all of the Martian threats largely by his own wits became tiresome after a while.

In sum, after only the first episode of this show (when they blew up New Orleans), I said Aldnoah.Zero lacked perspective and seemed to be more about spectacle than anything else. My opinion was strongly reinforced over the course of its airing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:11 pm Reply with quote
gedata wrote:
fireaxe wrote:
Hellwarden wrote:

That said, spoiler[screw this show if Inaho and the Princess come back because of some goddamn space magic.]
spoiler[Oh they definitely are coming back.] [1] [2]

spoiler[Part of me looks forward to whatever absurd method they use to bring back Inaho. Hopefully it's not the "bullet grazed him" cliche. There's no good way to write yourself out of such a climax, so might as well not even bother.]

spoiler[I still believe the "kiss of longevity" is a very plausible theory. Laughing]
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:23 pm Reply with quote
ChibiKangaroo wrote:
The show wasn't terrible...


Um, yes it was. Let's call a spade a spade, shall we? The first season was goddamn awful. It started badly (and clunky), got boring and repetitive in the middle, and then ended like a cluster-F-bomb: messily.

There were some good parts in it. The villain was surprisingly honourable and rational, and almost sympathetic. The fight in episode three was genuinely clever and engaging. Marito spoiler[coming to terms with his PTSD] was well handled. And Inaho's sister was hot.

But overall the show sucked from the first episode to the last, for many of the reasons that you listed. If Urobuchi's name hadn't been associated with it I would have dropped it before the halfway mark for sure.

I'll be checking out the second season because I want to see what happens; if nothing else the cliffhanger certainly was memorable. But if those pictures turn out to be correct then oh boy, you'd better switch on CNN, because the top story will be about a large explosion* in a certain New Zealand municipality . . . . . .



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An explosion of rage, that is.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:33 pm Reply with quote
the weird thing about this show is how both humans and martians somehow evolved to a race that
spoiler[can only get killed by mecha, any other assassination method fails]

now being serious, I generally agree with the good things and bad thigns about this show, and it seems like almost everyone does, so it's weird seeing people call this show a failure, horrible, fun grea, genious, etc.. even though everybody agrees on what was good adn bad about the show.

when a show is this polaziring so tos peak, usually people have disagreement on what's good or bad about it , like aku no hana's visual style or pacing as an example.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:42 pm Reply with quote
I don't know what the rules are for posting links to other sites but I had made my opinions on Aldnoah.Zero clear in them so here we go:

Aldnoah.Zero review

Bascilaly, it sucks, the ending drained all the momentum out of the story. People wanted this to be the gundam killer but I severly doubt it when
spoiler[you kill the pilot, the peace maker and the war wager. That would be like killing Kira, Lacus and Ray La Crueust in the first half of Gundam Seed.]

It's a shame too because I liked the first three episodes but after that, it just went on a meandering mess that I want to punch in the face.

And if what the promos and posters are implying is true, then this show will get a right pounding in it's face for being stupid.
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Kaioshin_Sama



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:40 pm Reply with quote
Big loud and kind of stupid hype show that is completely overblown on account of its advertising and key staff members. What really drags it down are the characters though. Man did they just blow it on that front.
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unitmikey



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:58 pm Reply with quote
It's so hard to really go either way on Aldnoah for me. The show was pretty boring and then tried to make up for it through a "surprising" finale. The main draw seemed to be Urobuchi, but something like episode twelve is so expected of him by now that when all those events happened it just felt like it was reaching that moderate satisfaction level. But it does still have a chance to get crazy next season (which is what I'm hoping for).

Other than that it just feels like Gundam/Geass retread so far and had it not left off where it did, talk about this show would be mostly dead and gone by now.
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Izanagi009



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:00 pm Reply with quote
unitmikey wrote:
It's so hard to really go either way on Aldnoah for me. The show was pretty boring and then tried to make up for it through a "surprising" finale. The main draw seemed to be Urobuchi, but something like episode twelve is so expected of him by now that when all those events happened it just felt like it was reaching that moderate satisfaction level. But it does still have a chance to get crazy next season (which is what I'm hoping for).

Other than that it just feels like Gundam/Geass retread so far and had it not left off where it did, talk about this show would be mostly dead and gone by now.


from what I heard, Urobuchi only did the first three episodes and the outline for the show. This means that while it has his touches, i don't think it has his substance. Call it imitation without understanding
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unitmikey



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:12 pm Reply with quote
Izanagi009 wrote:
unitmikey wrote:
It's so hard to really go either way on Aldnoah for me. The show was pretty boring and then tried to make up for it through a "surprising" finale. The main draw seemed to be Urobuchi, but something like episode twelve is so expected of him by now that when all those events happened it just felt like it was reaching that moderate satisfaction level. But it does still have a chance to get crazy next season (which is what I'm hoping for).

Other than that it just feels like Gundam/Geass retread so far and had it not left off where it did, talk about this show would be mostly dead and gone by now.


from what I heard, Urobuchi only did the first three episodes and the outline for the show. This means that while it has his touches, i don't think it has his substance. Call it imitation without understanding


Yeah let's just hope his outline is more detailed in season two I guess. If it's a three point plan (like if he just had the beginning, very middle, and end), then the show is going to have to work really hard to earn a more solid fanbase.
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