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HeeroYuy135



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:00 pm Reply with quote
I was browsing along the internet, and then I came along this...

http://www.petitiononline.com/cutiepie/petition.html

Yes, its a petition to BAN ANIME. I don't know why they are doing this...here's a example on why anime shoud be banned...

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Ah My Goddess: A sick and disgusting show which causes children under the age of 18 to think they are capable of love. The main female character is clearly under 18, and is forced into a romantic relationship by an older man who "wishes" for her to be his girlfriend forever. He even KISSES her, and she appears NAKED. That poor girl must be so confused.

Love Hina: I'm not even going to mention the unspeakable, disgusting, pedophilic, pornograhpic events which transpire during this show, but suffice it to say, groups of young men on Love Hina-fueled rampages are raping children at a level unheard of since the 60s.


Now, I don't know what they're trying to say mostly because its a bunch of BULLSHIT!!! (sorry for the cussing) Please, let's all ban together and remove this useless petition!!!

(In my opinion, that statement made AMG and Love Hina sound like porno flims rather than anime, and from watching both of them, they have some hentai moments (like the hot spring scenes and others) but not enough to support this statement. This is one reason why this petition is useless.)
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:04 pm Reply with quote
You don't actually believe that piece of crap, do you? Confused

It's obviously a joke. Heck, look at the e-mail address of the creator.
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trigunner



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:07 pm Reply with quote
So do you want us to sign a petition aganist a petition. Don't take it to heart, it was probobly just a joke.
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:08 pm Reply with quote
I've seen less BS at manure packaging plants.

[sarcasm]While we're at it, let's ban war movies since they might offend veterans. And let's ban video games for corrupting our youth! Down with the Japanese! [/sarcasm]
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trigunner



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:15 pm Reply with quote
[sarcasm]And let's ban sugar sweets because they rot our teeth[/sarcasm]
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:21 pm Reply with quote
Wait, is this in response to that thing I wrote in the other thread?

me, in that other thread wrote:
...plug "ban anime" into Google, and pretty much all you get are obvious tongue-in-cheek spoof "ban anime" petitions and intentionally outrageous spoof articles, or anime fan blogs and message boards reacting to the fake petitions and fake articles as though they were meant to be taken at face value.


This is precisely one of the specific pages I was alluding to. Was "spoof", "tongue-in-cheek", and "fake" not quite clear enough? Quoth Elaine Benes, "Fake! Fake! Fake! Fake!" I'll say it slowly: "Faaaaayyyhhhh-kkkuuuhhh!"

I know some anime fans take this thing at face value, because I've put "ban anime" into search engines and read their blogs, but... erm, it's self-evidently over-the-top.

the fake petition wrote:
2) Love Hina: I'm not even going to mention the unspeakable, disgusting, pedophilic, pornograhpic events which transpire during this show, but suffice it to say, groups of young men on Love Hina-fueled rampages are raping children at a level unheard of since the 60s.


Obviously, that isn't true and you're not meant to get anything more than a chuckle from that sentence.
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:30 pm Reply with quote
I say this thread should be locked. Confused
Or deleted.
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:51 pm Reply with quote
Ahahaha. That was some funny shi---stuff. Laughing

Those responses were ridiculous.

Where was AMG hentai-ish? I'm confused, I don't rememeber it.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:55 pm Reply with quote
The scary thing is... I'm not sure if this petition is a joke. It's on petitiononline.com after all. If there are people out there who want to ban videogames I'm willing to believe that there are also people who would want to see anime banned. This petition kind of reminds me of some of the posts in the "Scary things that can happen in the industry" thread. Anyway what a load of bullshit.

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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:58 pm Reply with quote
AMG is never really hentai-ish, at least not the anime (some of the stuff in the manga borders on hentai, but stops before it reaches that point)... maybe the scenes in episode two with Urd are a little risqué, but it never gets dirty nor is anyone ever naked.

But, like I said, the petition is a joke... whomever wrote it is making fun of the overreaction some people have against anime (though the overreaction itself is largely a myth... very few of the anti-pop culture backlash groups have taken any notice of anime besides Pokémon and the like, and the Focus on the Family articles on anime are ancient).
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:59 pm Reply with quote
Proman wrote:
The scary thing is... I'm not sure if this petition is a joke. It's on petition.com after all.


In terms of actually getting anything done, *any* petition on Petition.com is a joke, but this one is obviously not meant to be taken at face value either.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:05 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
Proman wrote:
The scary thing is... I'm not sure if this petition is a joke. It's on petition.com after all.


In terms of actually getting anything done, *any* petition on Petition.com is a joke, but this one is obviously not meant to be taken at face value either.

Oh I know that. And I agree it's probably a joke.
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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:15 pm Reply with quote
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AMG is never really hentai-ish, at least not the anime (some of the stuff in the manga borders on hentai, but stops before it reaches that point)... maybe the scenes in episode two with Urd are a little risqué, but it never gets dirty nor is anyone ever naked.


Oh, I remember now. Yeah, the manga might have bordered on it, especially when Urd first show up.
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Carol Maxwell



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:24 pm Reply with quote
*This rant is my opinion, so, anyone who doesn't like me, or who doesn't care either way, cover your ears or eyes.*

The Petition wrote:
Here in America, we live in a climate of moral decay. What is the cause of this? It is called "anime". Anime is a perverse, evil, insiduous form of animation from the dark land of Japan, and is corrupting America's youth at unprecedented rates. Here are a few examples of anime which are circulating on the Internet and may very well be in your home:


Anime is not the only cause of this 'moral decay'. From what I've seen and heard this has been going on for a while now, and it can't be from anime. Anime still isn't main stream enough to do that.

Now, they said that anime is a 'perverse, evil, insiduous form of animation'. With this in mind, if it is perverse, then what about all the sex related humor in todays movies. Sure, this is true, but why go after just solely anime for 'corrupting America's youth'? Sure, many people may see this as a problem, but, the movies have a much bigger influence on these kids, much more then anime has.

Now, adding to what they said about the 'dark land of Japan'. If it's such a 'dark' place, then why does a lot of stuff say "Made in Japan" on it? If they say Japan is a 'dark' place, this should be a petition to ban all the stuff from this 'dark' place. But, it's not.

The Petition wrote:
1) Ah My Goddess: A sick and disgusting show which causes children under the age of 18 to think they are capable of love. The main female character is clearly under 18, and is forced into a romantic relationship by an older man who "wishes" for her to be his girlfriend forever. He even KISSES her, and she appears NAKED. That poor girl must be so confused.


This is a bad example. This person probably hasn't seen a certain Sailor Moon movie. If they think that's bad, then they haven't seen any of the hentai or anything like that. Ah! My Goddess! is sugar, especially compared to the other stuff out there.

This is quite funny when they say this, 'which causes children under the age of 18 to think they are capable of love.' That's a joke, so does that mean that kids are incapable of loving their parents, because from what I understand of that, they say that kids can't love anyone. But, love is funny thing, it strikes when you least expect it. I'm in love, and I'm 15, does that means it's fake? I don't know, seems very real to me.

Now with the whole 'forcing' Belldandy, she seemed to be doing fine with it in the show, in fact, it looks like she's having a nice time in general. So, if she were being 'forced', wouldn't she be miserable and not fall in love with Keiichi? Belldandy isn't under 18, in fact, she's well over it, I can't put an exact age on it, but, isn't Belldandy thousands of years old or something to that extent? And the whole 'kisses' thing in caps is quite funny, with Belldandy being over 18, what's the big deal? Lots of movies show kissing scenes, nothing new. 'She appears naked', was also a funny bit. How many movies today show nudity in it that kids see? How many kids under 18 watch porn? Lots. Also, if just showing up naked freaked them out, wonder what they'd say about full blown sex scenes.

The Petition wrote:
Anyone who is found in possesion of anime should be arrested and jailed for an exhorbant period of time. Anime is a dark scourge upon our beautiful nation, and we don't need this Japanese filth corrupting the hearts of the children.


Oh, just think of how many people would end up in jail because of this. They'd have to build more jails for this! And what are they going to do with little kids that are five years old?! Are they going to throw them in jail too? Or, are they going to throw the parents in? And if 'anime is a dark scourge upon our beautiful nation', then look at some of the stuff that's out there that is bad and that is American spawned. Other stuff corrupts kids too, it's not just one thing that does it.

Ranma, from the Petition wrote:
I'm never so angry in all my life! You Peple know SQUAT about animes...to you every anime is sick right? Ah! My Goddess deals with love and morals between a guy that shows respect and true feelings...It's NOT about sex and sex, Anime comes with a country with a different Culture, it's based on norms, If you say this isn't right, then you're just wrong...


This is very true, that's what Ah! My Goddess! is about. Now, take a look at some of the t.v., there's a show that's about sex! And they aren't mentioning this at all?! What gives?!

Local Village Idiot Who Hates Everything That Isn't Conforming To His Beliefs wrote:
Seriously folks, are you going to ban an entire genre, an entire art style simply because of a few bad apples? Many classic paintings, statues, etc. feature nudity. Michaelangelo's "David" for example. And yet I haven't heard a single complaint about those being displayed at history or art musuems. If you don't like a certain cartoon show, then don't watch it. Be a responsible parent, not an over-enthusiastic control freak


This is right as well. But, the whole statue of David is considered art by everyone, therefore, no one cares. But, most people think of anime as just a cartoon, and not as art. But, with the way the U.S. is going today, many parents aren't that good and blame others for letting their kid watch something.

Banning anime would be like banning Disney, it doesn't make sense, and when you think about it, it's down right silly. Think about the alcohol ban in the 1920's, that didn't last long because people were still drinking it and getting drunk, even if it was illegal. If this were to happen, people are going to do the same thing and keep watching anime, keep posting here, and keep buying the DVDs, manga, toys, soundtracks, and all the other good stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:31 pm Reply with quote
You...DO realize this petition is a fake, right? Not to mention online petitions have a long, long history of falling on deaf ears, anyway. Rolling Eyes
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