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Kemono Friends 2 (TV)

Genres: adventure, comedy, fantasy
Themes: animals, magical creatures, post-apocalyptic

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Serval and Caracal find a "human" child in the forest. As they travel with the child, they meet new Friends, uncover the secrets of Japari Park, and become involved in an event that will "shake the earth."


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Episode 1

Okay, there is going to be a lot of mixed feelings coming into this, so I think it will be important to give some background on this franchise, on the off chance someone reads this without really knowing what the existence of this second season means. This is a second season, and while we never got around to having a discussion thread for the first season, we really should have, because the season managed to become a big phenomenon. Starting out as too childish, with janky CGI animation, and a feeling like it is talking to children, but the creators put in subplot of this being post-apocalyptic, and despite its edutainment like premise, it actually managed to make itself really charming, and capture peoples hearts. Despite the love, there is some controversy; the director, TATSUKI, pretty much made the first season what it was, after the game that Kemono Friends was based on, was discontinued and he was given a lot of creative freedom, and he made it gold. He was infamously fired though, reportedly from releasing Kemono Friends content (the horses I think) without permission, and it created a really big PR nightmare because people loving what he made. TATSUKI is actually directing Kemurikusa that is also coming out of this season.

While people loved the first season, many people are upset at Kadokawa for what they did, that many are ready to hate what they release. And honestly, they had been releasing some shorts lately before this second season, that had really bad animation, not much of the charm, felt like it was really leaning on the mechanics of the debunk game, and unfairly on how good the first season was. With probably the slight exception with how each of those ended, playing up the passage of time and eeriness that I think captured a lot of people. I think the Serval also felt wrong, and was really pushing the Caracal character, who seemed to have little relevance in the first season. Kind of looked bad that that this second season also seems to be having Caracal alongside Serval. I tempering my expectations, but also did not want to outwardly hate it for no reason.

Episode 1

Which goes into the first episode of this second season, I think it was pretty good. Serval has the same actress and does feel just like herself, with Caracal so far not feeling intrusive. I think that it is clear they put a lot of thought into how this would go, they seemed to have dropped a bit of the explain the animal thing, with no time with zookeeper, although not entirely gone, with a little more focus on the post-apocalypse stuff, although not feeling too depressing yet. In ways I would say this episode felt a bit cleaner. Possibly same with the animation, it being a bit more advanced than the first season which had a tiny team, but they have kept some of the jankiness that gave it charm. I am part of the argument that the lack of fluid animation, kind of worked in its favour.

I think one of my greater surprises was who the main character is, in that it is not Kaban, the credits in ANN simply call them child. That creates a mix of feelings, that it is doing its own thing, which I think is exactly what made the first season, although with the fear that it maybe is completely ignoring the character, which would be way too sad. But, then Caracal mentioned hearing that Serval travelled with a human, and showed a silhouette of her, showing that it is acknowledging her, only to make it sad that it seems that Serval has mostly forgotten her best friend, possibly from a large passage of time. This feels inline with the atmosphere of the show, and a whole avenue of questions have been opened for the audience, like what happened to Kaban, and what the nature of this new kid is, the characters automatically assuming there is something human related with them, although there details like one of their irises are red, while the other is green, and they seem to like drawing.

I also noticed that some of the cerulean seemed to have distinct camera like aesthetics, I don't really remember them having really distinct appearances before. In terms of theories, a certain reveal of the first season was that Kaban was not entirely a human, but a Human Friend, created from a hair on a hat. I kind of wondered if perhaps the kid is also a human friend, the eyes making me think of computers, and specifically of maybe a camera, as to explain the art and some memory. Although the cacoon they were in also bring up question. And in addition, perhaps something to the Welcome to Japari Park shorts, which are supposed to have their last episode in a few months, where they are chasing after a Cerulean that has copied the appearance of Serval, who had a green body and red eyes, where she seemed to be learning things. The strange thing that the child was supposedly in, I think sort of looks like the stuff that came out of Cerulean. Or perhaps like a Lucky, since they have similar appearance of blue, and I think Lucky's eye colour would change.

Hope that there is going to be stuff for me to talk about going forward, I don't want to just hate on this because there director changed, it is not like this new one did anything wrong. Also, pirate Lucky.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:46 pm Reply with quote
Episode 3

The marine animals Friends were interesting, with Dolphin and Sea Lion. Notable as the exact sort of animals often used in marine animal shows, and the seemed far more interested in getting rewarded for their tricks. I think that I saw someone saying that mystery or something is not there, but reading between the lines I think that similar to Serval kind of forgetting Kaban in ways, Dolphin and Sea Lion were similar in that they barely recalled that they must have at one time done shows on that stage that was now sunk. The clapping help to remind them, the way they would get stuck in doing a greeting until they got a treat was kind of funny.

Pangolin and Armadillo also seem to be working for someone, so have to look forward for what might be going on there.
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I dunno, I've given this 4 episodes now, and nothing's changed. I feel brain cells dying as I watch it.

The Friends in the first season were innocent, but they weren't stupid. They had clear goals which Kaban helped them achieve, and had some fun along the way and learned some things. They were basically like the Rinas in Kemurikusa, with animal traits woven in.

These Friends are idiots. They spend all their time chattering about totally vacuous things, or playing ridiculous games that would bore a four year old. They've all just been painted over with a veneer of every CGDCT trope in existence, but they forgot to add any depth or heart. I might give it one more episode to see if it can or will changes things up at all, but I'm not seeing much hope. The only thing going for it is Armadillo and Pangolin's drop-and-cover schtick when they're scared. That's funny.
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I thought the addition of new Luckies was cute. The pirate one that drove the train, the South American one that would jump and use Spanish words, and now some sort of jungle Lucky that has knives at its sides and is supposedly a quiet type (although likely defective with its power).

I don't think that there has been any real drop in intelligence of the animal friends, their problems have always been rather simple things, that they were kind of dumb by human standards in most things, but really good at particular things their animal would be. Serval could not figure out how to lift a lid to get a map, even the proclaimed geniuses had trouble with simple ideas of cooking, and none of them realized they could take their clothes off.

To be frank, the Rinas feel like know it alls that know very little, and still enforce their will on someone who seems to have a greater ability to draw conclusions from that information. Sure some of the new friends have been a bit boring, but I don't think there have been any that just feel annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:24 am Reply with quote
Yes, their problems were simple, but they themselves were not stupid. It's like if you found a group of people who were unfamiliar with modern tech being baffled by modern tech, vs a group of 5 year olds unfamiliar with modern tech. Their responses would be very different. The former group may be uneducated in that area, but you'd still recognize them emotionally as behaving like adults, or in the Friends' case, at least like not very young children. They were basically kids before, but they've lost at least 5 or 10 years of maturity from last season.

Like this episode it was almost like they'd never seen it rain before. I dunno, last season I was never bored even in the early wtf is this episodes. Now there's like two minutes of plot that's engaging and the rest is just them chatting and playing and whining and being shocked at everything else and I feel like I'm babysitting.

I did welcome the Lucky Beasts, though the stereotype Mexican Beast was kinda cringey.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:30 am Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
I did welcome the Lucky Beasts, though the stereotype Mexican Beast was kinda cringey.


Kind of feels like that would be more genuine. Can't imagine the people who made the park (was it always Friends, or did it have animals?) could have made a Lucky Beast they dressed up as a Mexican not come across as cringey. Their robotic voices already kind of feel that way.

As a silly aside, I was just thinking how Lucky Beasts could have a bit of a Claptrap thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:31 am Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
I did welcome the Lucky Beasts, though the stereotype Mexican Beast was kinda cringey.


Kind of feels like that would be more genuine. Can't imagine the people who made the park (was it always Friends, or did it have animals?) could have made a Lucky Beast they dressed up as a Mexican not come across as cringey. Their robotic voices already kind of feel that way.

As a silly aside, I was just thinking how Lucky Beasts could have a bit of a Claptrap thing.
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Episode 5

What do you know, Kaban is back. The first hint was the fire paper aeroplane, the same trick used to distract the big Cerulean at the end of the first season, for some reason the trick looked to work on a Tiger Friend that was corrupted or something. Serval surely recognised it, and there is a little bit of a reunion at the end. An interesting point though is that it seems like Kaban is turning into Mirai, the human who's hair she was born from.

In terms of other things in the episode, I do have a soft spot for Panthers (Black Leopards), kind of my favourite animal. As well as Saltwater Crocodiles, they are pretty popular in zoos here in Australia, the friend looked pretty cool. And the Gorilla Friend herself would have been interesting, in that she comes from an animal closer to humans than most others. Wonder how a Serval and Caracal managed to out strength animals that should be stronger.
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I liked Gorilla's outfit. I liked her too, since she's the first one we've met who didn't act like a child. I was frankly kind of worried about what they'd do with Gorilla, given past representations of the animal and people depicted as gorillas. But right now, she might be my favorite character in the whole franchise. Smile

The sequence at the end was very confusing. The plane came from the right, Tiger ran off to the left. Everyone else then also runs off to the left while Serval remains staring off to the right, which was where I expected the mystery Friend to be. Then suddenly Kaban is among the group off to the left while Serval slowly turns to the sound of her voice.

I had read your post before I watched the episode, so I was actually looking for Kaban, but even so, I had to rewind because I didn't realize that was her among the group, since I was expecting her to still be off to the right where Serval was staring. (maybe I would've noticed her sooner if not reading subs)

Anyway, I guess that was enough plot to finally get me interested for another episode, if I can just grit my teeth and bear all the childishness from the Friends.

Oh, and I think the Park originally had animals who became Friends after whatever catastrophe created the Ceruleans - i.e. the Friends were created the same way as Kaban was, from DNA of the original animals.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:17 am Reply with quote
Episode 6

The strange exception to what Kaban said of a friend forgetting all their emotions after being eaten by a Cerulean, is that she herself was eaten by one, and seemed fine for the short time afterwards that we saw her. Their time with Kaban felt short for how they are moving on, I was reading comments that apparently a lot of people are disappointed. But I do think there were things to mull over in general Kemono Friends manner. Another thought people had was that perhaps Serval was eaten by a cerulean, and thus lost her memory, but I don't think that is a good explanation as she did talk about it to Kaban, so unless there is a delayed memory loss from something like that happening, where perhaps Kaban would lose her memories over some time, and maybe decided to have Serval happy in her territory to think fondly of the memories as she had them, before Kaban seeing it might just distress Serval if she knew she was supposed to remember something but could not.

At this point, I am more in line to believe that Friends forget things after a long enough period of time, and perhaps Caracals have a better memory over Servals, or just because she heard it more recently before forgotten. Maybe it is lifetime related or something, but Kaban did seem to have some memory loss to Serval also. On these points, I think people are finding it kind of painful, that after all of that, they are practically like strangers. And I think that is possibly the most in the spirit of the original series that it has been. Remember the ED of the first season, it was all sorts of fun and beautiful things, things that have become abandoned, they have lost their colour like no one remember what they used to be for. I am a big baby, and will admit that at least on one occasion have kind of cried at the whole theme of things forgotten and lost, but it is also kind of a beauty to it, that I think I feel the same of even how Kaban and Serval are now.
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Yeah, I was disappointed that they just went on their merry way afterwards, with nothing really brought up.

When they were talking before about humans trying to control Friends, I thought it was a reference to wild animal tamers or circus trainers or something, but no, they were trying to restrain them because they were more dangerous than ceruleans.

"This is super dangerous, so be careful handling it."

How about not handling it at all? Very Happy
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