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ACｘS
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Fair point. This is why the crux of the previous episode was Frieren relying on Serie's "intuition" to take the bait and pass Fern. Serie could have failed Fern, but Frieren banked on Fern to notice Serie's fluctuating mana and on Serie to recognize that. I believe Frieren gambled on Serie prioritizing a *rare talent over pure pettiness. A part of me believes that Serie will not involve other mages just to spite Frieren, even if that mage is Frieren's student (she is petty, but she is level-headed enough not to be that petty). *Lernen was the only other one we learned that could notice a fluctuating mana. That's a testament to his powers as well. Like Serie, I also find it tempting to see how he would fare against someone like Frieren, especially when he came from a more hostile era. |
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Barciad
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I don't know what it was. Something about Frieren rubbed me the wrong way. Too many fantasy animes? Too much isekai? Or just too much of that 'Faux-European' look. Regardless, it's been up until now that I've avoided the series. The series every fan and their dog has been raving about.
Yes, it is that good. |
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Blood-
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Better late than never.
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Barciad
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Finally finished it. Absolutely superb. Roll on Season 2.
And give Wirbel his own show. |
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Tony K.
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Original discussion started here.
---------------------------------- Episode 01: The Journey's End ---------------------------------- Summary: Pending ---------------------------------- Comments: Given all the screen caps I want to take for a bunch of different shows that are getting sequel seasons in the winter, the Summaries and Comments for a lot of these review posts will have to be retroactively edited once I finish the caps (and there are a lot I want to take). So if you actually do enjoy any insight I try to give; one, thanks for reading; and two, please randomly check back, or just wait for me to post something about any kind of updates. But in the meantime, enjoy some the artwork of this masterpiece series! ---------------------------------- Screen Caps:  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Tony K.
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Original discussion started here.
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Tony K.
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Tony K.
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Original discussion started here.
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Tony K.
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Original discussion started here.
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Tony K.
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Original discussion started here.
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Tony K.
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Tony K.
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smurky turkey
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I wonder if the second season will have more encounters with the demons. I liked that the show does not make the nature of them something up for discussion, demons and the other races simply do not mix (thus far).
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Tony K.
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I actually had a thought during this arc when it was still airing: what if there's actually a "good" demon out there? Or at least, one that's closer to neutral and not just outright "evil" that also happens to understand, both, demon and human social psychology?
With the whole "evolution of magic" idea they had going by the end of S1 and implying humans, namely Fern, would be the next step in the hierarchy of magic, I had also wondered if that same concept would be applicable to other races. By S1's end, we know there are humans, dwarves, elves, and demons who are all speech-capable races in that world. We really only see one dwarf and a small handful of elves and demons. By definition, demons have, pretty much, always been stereotyped as "bad" in the majority of fictional works, especially Western-based ones. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if this franchise decided to tweak that trope a bit; maybe not to the point of having a demon join the hero party, but at least something the audience wouldn't expect that could possibly show a little more cultural perspective or ideological representation. If you look at a lot of fiction with different races of people, each race basically represents some kind of group/community with a certain set of beliefs. Through character interaction and/or storytelling, we explore those beliefs as a journey into the unknown or as a reflection of ourselves and the rest of humanity. You just change the skin from human to non-human, then throw all those races into a story and see what happens. Anyway, with only 14 volumes of manga out, and given the happenings of S1, I think the franchise has established a pretty straightforward formula: long-lived elf is finally learning to enjoy life and cherish time with humans, demons are bad, what dwindling number of elves remain are all a bit quirky, and while the new group journeys to the north, adventures, drama, and fun SoL times will be had in-between. Hopefully the manga doesn't drag out too long, or at least maintains a good enough pace that we don't have to wait 10 years for a full adaptation like Attack on Titan did. But yeah, while the "good demon" thing sounds like a cool theory, depending on how that idea was executed, I think it could possibly over-complicate the current formula, possibly writing itself into a proverbial hole. But if the execution were as unexpectedly concise, yet entertaining as the Aura arc was, then I'd be all for that little detour. |
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WatcherZer
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I think your missing the point, there can never be a 'good' demon, they are magical rather than biological creatures that evolved from monsters that mimicked human voices to catch their prey. When they die they dissolve like all creatures borne of magic rather than nature do. While they mimic human emotions, speech and friendly interactions it is purely camouflage, they do not actually experience emotions or genuine social interaction even towards other demons, they merely exhibit wolf pack like survival where the weaker ones will submit to the will of the alpha rather than be destroyed, while planning to overthrow them if they get the chance.
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