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Jennifer.Duke



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:46 am Reply with quote
I'm a Journalist for the Australian Centre for Independent Journalism, and I'm writing an article about why Manga has become so hugely popular.
Any information would be very helpful, and I will accredit you if I quote (I will ask permission before hand). Off the record comments are also useful.
Main areas include:
Australian-Japanese blend.
Do the books help multiculturalism?
What is the impact of the books on readers?
Are any Japanese related values coming through the books? Or Japanese lifestyle elements?
All opinions welcome, please mail me on [email protected]
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:36 am Reply with quote
No you're not a journalist. I know that because I have not once ever read a published article that followed a quote with: Source: Iluvtehanime185 - internet forum
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dormcat
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:14 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
No you're not a journalist. I know that because I have not once ever read a published article that followed a quote with: Source: Iluvtehanime185 - internet forum

You really need to read more. I had been quoted to make comments on anime and manga -- with my screen name.
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:33 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:
No you're not a journalist. I know that because I have not once ever read a published article that followed a quote with: Source: Iluvtehanime185 - internet forum

You really need to read more. I had been quoted to make comments on anime and manga -- with my screen name.


Except in your case Dormcat, you can be sourced back to Anime News Network. For all we know, this person could easily say he/she is a journalist, but may not be a actual journalist.

Unless there is a relible, trustworthy source, how do we know this is true?
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Mushi-Man



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:16 pm Reply with quote
Here's a thought... does it matter if this person is a journalist or not? The fact of the matter is this person is wanting to learn more about manga and came to us for help. What harm could come from answering these anonymous questions?
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:24 pm Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
Unless there is a relible, trustworthy source, how do we know this is true?


Um, this might just be the biggest source around.

Using it, you'll find this page.

It isn't solid confirmation, but notice the name of the person mentioned in the article, the institution they study at, and that journalism is offered at the aforementioned institution.

At the end of the day, people should keep in mind this Wikipedia principle.
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dormcat
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:21 pm Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
Except in your case Dormcat, you can be sourced back to Anime News Network. For all we know, this person could easily say he/she is a journalist, but may not be a actual journalist.

You've missed my point. The reason I used myself as an example because all other examples I could find were in a language ikillchicken had no knowledge of. Furthermore, while I don't have much clue about journalistic criteria in Australia, quoting anonymous or semi-anonymous (such as Internet forum that requires registration e.g. ANN) comments, while sometimes criticized, it a common practice of news media in Taiwan. For the record, many local Internet forum require much more stringent identity verification than CAPTCHA alone, such as sending verification codes via cell phone SMS. The most strict one I know even requires you send copies of your ID.

Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
Unless there is a relible, trustworthy source, how do we know this is true?

Like Mushi-Man said, it wouldn't matter if Ms. Duke didn't even mention her profession, would it? She could have remained completely anonymous and asked the same question.

However, judging from her questions I'd say it would be more practical if she asked people who are more familiar with the Australian anime/manga industry (e.g. sonictail) directly, instead of tossing the question on a forum like this one. I'm also curious why she has chosen this topic if she's really "clueless" about it.
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RedSwirl



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:50 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
No you're not a journalist. I know that because I have not once ever read a published article that followed a quote with: Source: Iluvtehanime185 - internet forum


Saying that she'll ask permission before citing might mean that she'll ask for your real name and quote you as so. I've been quoted like that before on 1up.

As for the actual reason for asking here, this is probably part of a shotgun approach to getting sources. You can't just ask in one place. Furthermore, you need to have opinions from a wide range of people. If I were this person I would be trying to get sources from within the manga localization industry as well as from among ordinary consumers - thus posting here and probably other forums as well.

Now if we can actually get down to discussing her questions...
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:50 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
The reason I used myself as an example because all other examples I could find were in a language ikillchicken had no knowledge of. Furthermore, while I don't have much clue about journalistic criteria in Australia, quoting anonymous or semi-anonymous (such as Internet forum that requires registration e.g. ANN) comments, while sometimes criticized, it a common practice of news media in Taiwan.


Seriously? That's pretty lax. I guess if those are acceptable standards in some places... My impression of this was that it was just another of those spammy 'do my homework for me' topics that pop up every once and a while.
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Tamaria



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:40 am Reply with quote
Quoting someone from a forum isn't much different from asking people on the street for their opinion. I'm sure she just wants some opinions from fans and is smart enough not present us as experts while not knowing anything about us.
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stuckinfresno



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:05 pm Reply with quote
I think Mushi-man has said it best. Journalist or no, if you can answer a question what is the harm? Do I care about being quoted - uhh no. If I give out bad info - well I suppose that it all up to Jennifer.Duke. Believe me or not. After all people still site Wikipedia as a reference site in research papers. It isn't all that different.

Onto the question *gasp*

Australian-Japanese blend. This isn't a complete sentence and I'm not exactly sure how to read it. So if I'm off base - yeah well . . . I read this as a question as to whether Japanese manga has influenced Australian artists. The answers is glaringly easy. Read The Dreaming by Queenie Chan - she even has a website full of unpublished one-shot works. Queenie chan states that she is a native to/stayed for a awhile (I don't recall exactly at this moment) Australia and thus it influences her work. The Dreaming is set entirely in th Australian "bush" and even utilizes its folklore. The art, while distinct, has a Japanese influence to it. I am not aware of any other authors, but based on Queenie chan's postings she is rather easy to communicate with.

Do the books help multiculturalism? Again I'm basing this off the preceeding question. Using the mentioned author - no. The Dreaming would depict values and norms common to Australia.

What is the impact of the books on readers? Beyond it is fun to read I have no idea what you are looking for.

Are any Japanese related values coming through the books? Or Japanese lifestyle elements? See the second question. If you are looking for Japanese values really no manga is good for this. The closest thing would be Oishinbo for Japanese food and the customs that come with food. But this is by a Japanese author. (However, I do recall that the author is living in a different country so this may be of use.)

Lastly, (I'm assuming that the poster is honest - if not ignore me I don't care.) if you are interested in the popularity of manga why choose such an odd angle to report on. Manga isn't popular because it is a cultural experience. Manga is popular based on the wide variety of stories and art available to consumers. It is story medium just like any other. I suppose the best example would be expecting to get an "American" experience from a DC comic book. I know that my next door neighbor is secretly dressing up as a giant cat saving the lost kitties of the neighborhood from destruction (if any one takes this seriously please see a psychologist quickly).
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