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NEWS: Japanese Task Force Calls Anime Museum 'Unnecessary'


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Hi-Chan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:38 pm Reply with quote
If it is so necessary and would be as successful as it s supporters claim let the private sector take on the project or have some major roll in bankrolling it!
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:51 pm Reply with quote
Odd the Japanese government would propose a cancellation of the museum when it just recently stated the anime industry needs more support.

$120 million for a museum probably is pretty considerable given the current economic turmoil.
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icepick314



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:54 pm Reply with quote
as a fan of anime and fellow otaku myself, i also agree that this is rather stupid idea to have "national" Anime Museum bankrolled by the government...

they could use that money to help jobless people or some other educational program instead....

Hi-Chan wrote:
If it is so necessary and would be as successful as it s supporters claim let the private sector take on the project or have some major roll in bankrolling it!


or as Hi-Chan said, have some private companies pool money together to create one...
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Kit-Tsukasa



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:24 pm Reply with quote
PetrifiedJello wrote:
Odd the Japanese government would propose a cancellation of the museum when it just recently stated the anime industry needs more support.

$120 million for a museum probably is pretty considerable given the current economic turmoil.

I think it's more odd when Akihabara is currently recession proof and that the government is going against this idea. The fact that the heart of anime goods is currently having little to no problems compared to the rest of the world in the financial crisis should somewhat imply that if this museum is built, it would actually generate quite a lot of money boosting the economy since people will be inclined to spend.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:49 pm Reply with quote
icepick314 wrote:
as a fan of anime and fellow otaku myself, i also agree that this is rather stupid idea to have "national" Anime Museum bankrolled by the government...

they could use that money to help jobless people or some other educational program instead....

Hi-Chan wrote:
If it is so necessary and would be as successful as it s supporters claim let the private sector take on the project or have some major roll in bankrolling it!


or as Hi-Chan said, have some private companies pool money together to create one...


Japan bankrolls all kinds of unnecessary projects. For instance, the multi-million dollar rest stations that exist in parts of the country where there is little-to-no traffic to speak of have been decried for years...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:21 pm Reply with quote
I could see the value in a National Media Arts center if it's going to be a body that preserves and exhibits important pieces of Japanese media - anime, films, and what have you. Hey, if it generates jobs and money, maybe that is a worthwhile investment.

I don't buy into the notion that just because it isn't something that's sky high on the list of priorities that it should never happen. I think the real question is what will happen to that money otherwise? If it's just going to be blown on something even less scrupulous then maybe this is a better alternative. Governments waste a lot of money on some pretty incredulous things; is culture on of them? I don't think so.
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LondinCalling



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:02 pm Reply with quote
public works projects ARE good ways to create jobs. It's either this or build statues. It's up to them.

Naturally opposing the other side is the natural reaction to a rivals ideas in politics.
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I think this is what we've come to when those of us who aren't in Japan are discussing projects that the Japanese are building within their own country and leave it to ANN to leave this one open for discussion.

It would be more valid if this project were being built in the United States then a lot of us would be voicing valid reasons why it should not be built. However, this is where we have come.

We spend too much time judging other cultures and other societies that it's no wonder that the world at large hates Americans ... we spend too much time worrying about the affairs of others when we should be worrying about our own backyard.

That is how we got into trouble with Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Europe (WWI and II).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:15 pm Reply with quote
I sense a shift in political power in the next election and the LDP regaining power once again...
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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:19 pm Reply with quote
The fanboy in me admires Asō's visions for using his 'soft power'. I don't know whether being sceptical about the ability of entertainment to overcome financial difficulties is a case of realism or pessimism however. Presumably the former, according to this task force.

On an unrelated note, this sounds like a good premise for a superhero show:
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The project team established to end useless spending in the Japanese government...

Or perhaps not.
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:27 pm Reply with quote
Have to admit, this does seem like a wasate of funds.

That money could been spent elsewhere, such as help for the jobless or helping out the education system. Or even repairing roads that need maintance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:29 pm Reply with quote
Colonel Wolfe wrote:
I think this is what we've come to when those of us who aren't in Japan are discussing projects that the Japanese are building within their own country and leave it to ANN to leave this one open for discussion.

It would be more valid if this project were being built in the United States then a lot of us would be voicing valid reasons why it should not be built. However, this is where we have come.

We spend too much time judging other cultures and other societies that it's no wonder that the world at large hates Americans ... we spend too much time worrying about the affairs of others when we should be worrying about our own backyard.

That is how we got into trouble with Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Europe (WWI and II).


While I agree with the general gist of your argument (that non-Japanese really don't get to tell the Japanese government what to do with their money)...talk about blowing things out of proportion! Fans on an online forum debating whether or not an anime museum is a good idea in a bad economy (is it a waste of money or is it a job-creating opportunity?) isn't the equivalent of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq! None of us are in a position to be enforcing our opinions, we're just thinking and sharing. Comparing it to a destructive military operation is downright offensive!



And I sincerely hope you're not implying we should have stayed out of WW2....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:37 pm Reply with quote
kokuryu wrote:
I sense a shift in political power in the next election and the LDP regaining power once again...


The Liberal Democratic Party is in power now, and has been for all but three of the last fifty years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Since Japan is having a hard time right now, it might be better if they focused more on other things. I think its to risky to spend allot of money on this project since they might not get allot out of it.

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dewlwieldthedarpachief



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:58 pm Reply with quote
vashfanatic wrote:
Colonel Wolfe wrote:
I think this is what we've come to when those of us who aren't in Japan are discussing projects that the Japanese are building within their own country and leave it to ANN to leave this one open for discussion.

It would be more valid if this project were being built in the United States then a lot of us would be voicing valid reasons why it should not be built. However, this is where we have come.

We spend too much time judging other cultures and other societies that it's no wonder that the world at large hates Americans ... we spend too much time worrying about the affairs of others when we should be worrying about our own backyard.

That is how we got into trouble with Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Europe (WWI and II).


While I agree with the general gist of your argument (that non-Japanese really don't get to tell the Japanese government what to do with their money)...talk about blowing things out of proportion! Fans on an online forum debating whether or not an anime museum is a good idea in a bad economy (is it a waste of money or is it a job-creating opportunity?) isn't the equivalent of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq! None of us are in a position to be enforcing our opinions, we're just thinking and sharing. Comparing it to a destructive military operation is downright offensive!



And I sincerely hope you're not implying we should have stayed out of WW2....


I'll second that, and add that there are people in this world judging other cultures and societies that aren't American...like the people who judge American culture and society outside of America.

There is no reason to think that cultural relativism is anything but epic bullshit. If we don't acknowledge that there are universal standards for what is agreeable (bound of course to their own circumstances, not fundamentally different based on what people at large may think is alright) that's a recipe for disaster. Obviously examples such as Burma, North Korea, and various middle eastern nations make a good case for why the international community should target these bodies for criticism and regulation.

Insofar as Japan is concerned many people may be naive and/or ignorant of the realities that govern that country's affairs, but to say that we are somehow doing wrong by discussing it on a flipping anime forum is condescending to say the least. Good luck decrying the calamity of people being social; the good news is you're almost halfway owning up to your own convictions. The next step is not interacting with people on the internet at all, acquiring a life support system for home use, and then just meditating on how dignified you are. I'll probably voice criticisms of that too, but I'll be totally envious in secret. Totally.

taster of pork wrote:
Since Japan is having a hard time right now, it might be better if they focused more on the economy and not potential tourist attractions.


Isn't the tourism industry a considerable chunk of the Japanese economy, or any one for that matter?
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