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chobits713
Posts: 3 Location: Iowa...zzzzzzzzzz |
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I'm in high school and me and some of my friends want to start an anime club at our school. We went to talk to a teacher who liked anime and would be willing to supervise it. The problem? The teacher who we asked has apparently already tried to start an anime club there already.
3 times. 
The people who approve new clubs at our school seem to think that anime is only about violence, blood, and sex. According to them, anime also "goes against Christian values." (Its a Catholic school). I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts or suggestions on what my friends and I could do about this. Thanks. |
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.Sy
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Ah, you go to a Catholic school. Well. I think you should at least get ten people (preferrably 15) who would be willing to join. Then, I'd probably submit a detailed persuasive paper explaining what anime and manga are first. These stereosypes about anime and manga are annoying, aren't they? You're principal should at least read it and give you and answer. If it's a no, ask for a reason. I know it seems like I'm asking you to talk back, but the principals I know are very willing to give you the time of day. You said something about he people "who approve clubs". Well, they're misusing their position, it seems. Go to whomever runs your school, I say.
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darkhunter
 Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Go to a public school where religion don't get in the way.
Anime is mostly about violence and fanservice. Last edited by darkhunter on Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:13 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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msi435
 Posts: 465 Location: Behind you! |
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They can't say no to you if you have numbers and a good logical argument.
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.Sy
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Haru to Ashura
 Posts: 617 Location: Termina |
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Just give them a dvd-r with some samples of wholesome anime on it, to prove that not all anime in innapropirate. (Some good titles would be Saint Tail, Haibane Renmei, NieA_7, Cardcaptor Sakura - avoid episodes dealing w/ teacher-student relationshps, and less graphic episodes of Case Closed/Dectective Konan.)
If the club does get admitted, then you you actually should follow school morals and show somewhat appropriate anime only in club meetings. That will help the club not get into trouble, and show the admin. that liking anime/manga is an acceptable hobby. That doesn't mean don't show anything besides kiddy shows or anything, but don't bust out Puni Puni Poemy or Beserk or anything like that - that will just help the school confirm their suspicions that all anime is bad. |
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Glory Questor
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Especially avoid Neon Genesis Evangelion.
The minute they hear the words "Adam", "Lilith", or "Lance of Longinus", they will pretty much demonize anime. 
(I also think the image of a being nailed to a red cross and a space-bourne angel of light projecting the "light of Heaven" isn't the kind of imagery to show in a Catholic School.) |
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NZbeedee
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I would say Hellsing as the main characters seem to be christian but not only is it violent but they are english protestants and seem to violently hate Roman Catholics so maybe it wouldn't be a good idea.
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msi435
Posts: 465 Location: Behind you! |
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Changing schools to get an anime club.... Great Idea! 
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space clam
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Man, I tell you, those critters can be tough sometimes! I can't tell you all the ways you have to sneak up behind and...oh wait, wrong topic. 
Anime club at a Christian school? As a (almost-former) member of a non-denominational Christian school, I personally wouldn't try to get it approved. (Now that's another story, because there's been underlying problems with our administration. But I digress....) For the most part, anime *does* go against Christian morals. Of course, much of what is broadcast these days does. If I were your administrator, this is probably what I would say to you: "I understand that you and your friends are fans of anime. Now, I realize that, just like everything else, there's appropriate and inappropriate anime. While much of anime operates in opposition to what we believe, I trust your individual faith is strong enough not to be undermined. I also have faith that you would not show anything that could be deemed inappropriate. However, not everyone in this school shares similar views on anime--many students and parents might find it to be an actively destructive art form. Even if there were nothing wrong going on, can you imagine the nightmare we would have trying to explain this to certain parents, parents that are set in stone on their beliefs on this matter? I personally do not want to have to explain to every single questioner what is going on in the anime club. Also, if anyone ever decided that they were offended by it, the school would be held responsible for sponsoring it. I'm terribly sorry, but I just don't think I can allow you to have this official anime club on school grounds." Of course, then (assuming I were still the admin) I would offer some possible suggestions about what they could do in lieu of an official club. As far as anime in my school goes, it's somewhat significant percentage-wise, but not numerically (grades 7-12 only have ~250 students combined; not to boast, but I'm easily the biggest fan in our school, knowledge and collection-wise. I know maybe about 20 kids who are fairly zealous anime fans.) I have written 4 papers in Honors English on anime/manga, including the main research paper, in which I used Ghost in the Shell, Evangelion, and Fullmetal Alchemist as references (paper denounced human cloning, by the way.) In Bible class, *every* paper or project this year has been anime/Japan related (Bible teacher is not exactly good at teaching the class, so that may have something to do with it), including many essays using NGE as the main basis. So, nothing I've done related to anime has gotten me in trouble yet at school, and they're awfully strict (I got a 1-day ISS for stick figure comics depicting violence, which I had drawn). The trick to it (for me) is to present the info in a dead-serious manner, as though you had read it in an encyclopedia, or some famous piece of literature. |
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Nani?
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It sounds like you might dealing with people who were estatic about the election of Pope Benedict the XVI and have a rather narrow view of things. The "goes against Christian values" wording seems to reflect a rather fundamentalist streak.
Ask yourself, do they seem to have problems with all types of questioning of authority? If so, you probably have no options. Otherwise, I agree with Haru to Ashura's and .Sy suggestion but I would, at least in my Dvd-r request, avoid anything with overt spirituality like Haibane Renmei or perhaps even some of Cardcaptor Sakura. Unfortunately, numbers and logic may not always win against bias and dogma. All the best and good luck, Nani?[/i] |
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Isaaru
 Posts: 375 Location: the oppressed colonies in outer space |
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well...not sure if this will help. But here ya go.
http://www.christiananime.net/ |
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space clam
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Well, that sounds like my school's official stance on certain anime, though that may be the elementary school's stance. I remember in 6th grade they sent out a pamphlet delineating how Pokemon was "wrong," in that it encouraged beliefs of kami, acted as a proponent of evolution, etc. At the time, I was a fan, watching the show, but mostly playing the game, because the game was damn fun, just a little too cute, though. My parents and myself knew that nothing bad was going to become of me watching Pokemon, but I knew that I couldn't be bringing any related paraphenalia to school. Though I was in high school, I believe they sent home a similar thing to elementary kids regarding Yu-Gi-Oh!, a much darker, more Christian-opposed show, in my opinion. I refer back to my statement of how my parents and I knew that I was fine with Pokemon. The reason for such blanket statements/denouncements by the school is so that they have everything covered, and no one can get angry and sue. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of students wouldn't be affected by what they see in anime (we're still talking elementary school kids, so no NGE or Berserk, although the principle *probably* applies as those kids get older), and their parents are sure of this as well. They just want to protect themself against the possibility of being accused of endorsing such activity. In individual cases, I'm absolutely certain that anime/manga itself is not going to be the root cause of disciplinary action (at least for my school). If I were reading Hellsing Vol. 6 in class, and I got in trouble, it would be for the general policy against comic books, video game guides, etc.--not just because it was that evil manga from Japan. Now this is all from the eyes of a Missouri Synod Lutheran going to a non-denominational (but essentially Protestant) Christian school, so I don't know what the Roman Catholic school's stance would be, nor the reasoning behind it. |
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trackstar1013
 Posts: 179 Location: Canada |
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What is always an option is to have your anime club outside of school and try to convince your school to be able to advertise your club. Mabey get the teacher you said would support it to come to the club when there not working that way you can say that there is parental supervision for the more "hardcore christian parents" who do infact belive in the stereotype views of all anime. If that doesnt work then you could always try getting a pettition large enough to start an anime club, mabey around 100 signatures of people who may or may-not join but who support the idea of an anime club.
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space clam
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The first sentence seems most viable to me. The second one is pushing your luck.
Only if we're still talking outside of school. Refer to my first post in this thread--that's how the administration is most likely to react, namely the idea of "it may not be a completely bad thing, but we as a school can't afford to take the chance of someone throwing complaints at us." |
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