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Dr Grant Swinger



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:10 am Reply with quote
Ars Technica has an article about Evan Stone, the lawyer behind Funimation's P2P lawsuit. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere so I'll post it here. It's worth reading.

Here's the link.
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Jrittmayer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:41 am Reply with quote
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The number 1,337 spells "leet" if you squint at it the right way, and Stone chose this little bit of leet-speak as "my nod to the hacker community. I know who you guys are."


So he admits it was intentional, but as a threat or an acknowledgement?

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Despite sharing the same name as a porn star, Stone didn't intend on getting into bed (as it were) with the porn business


I was about to say; searching him up brought up ALOT of sites of a "certain nature". It would have been funnier if he was a porn star. Laughing


Well, all I can take away from reading this article is.

A) Torrenters in Texas better watch out.
B) There is now a semi-effective way to stop/go after torrent users.
C) Bittorrent has become too popular for its own good, back in the early 2000's when I first started using it was virtually unknown. Then again, there weren't as many options for downloading files via bittorrent either.

So either people need to stop torrenting/pirating (which they won't) or we (and by we I mean the technologically adept, the "1337" of the internet if you will) need to find a new way to file share, a way that won't be easy enough to use that casual users will be able to use it, which is why torrents are now so well known.

Anyone agree/disagree?
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EventHorizon



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:39 pm Reply with quote
I read this article earlier today slightly puzzled, mainly because it contradicts previous Ars coverage of the person in question. Earlier articles:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/p2p-lawyer-accused-of-issuing-isp-subpoenas-without-court-approval.ars

Give quite a different view, especially from the perception of the EFF lawyers who represented the Does in a case he handled. The main points of the issues the EFF lawyers had are detailed in a letter at: https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/uscg/stoneletter.pdf


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Takeyo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:47 pm Reply with quote
So he's one of those folks who uses the threat of being out outed to coerce a settlement? Nice choice, FUNi. A real class act. Rolling Eyes
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egoist



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:16 pm Reply with quote
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Not that the work is making him rich; Stone says he drives a 2002 Toyota and isn't in the P2P lawsuit business to get rich.

"I'm trying to protect the artists," he tells me when we spoke last week about his business and his background.

Might as well start trusting politicians. Laughing
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OtakuExile



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:36 pm Reply with quote
Jrittmayer wrote:
]So either people need to stop torrenting/pirating (which they won't) or we (and by we I mean the technologically adept, the "1337" of the internet if you will) need to find a new way to file share, a way that won't be easy enough to use that casual users will be able to use it, which is why torrents are now so well known.
They need to, but the info that has gotten out and a few generations have been born into the internet era, and know what they are doing. They would have to revamp everything.
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SgtMustang



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:26 am Reply with quote
Japan is able keep a tight lid on piracy since they're such a small country, in the US and internationally it impossible. The takedown of Napster only served to create better p2p methods. The sooner companies get used to the fact the sooner they'll start turning profits rather then wasting time and $$ on stopping the unstoppable.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:27 am Reply with quote
egoist wrote:
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Not that the work is making him rich; Stone says he drives a 2002 Toyota and isn't in the P2P lawsuit business to get rich.

"I'm trying to protect the artists," he tells me when we spoke last week about his business and his background.

Might as well start trusting politicians. Laughing

That, my dear sir, is god's own TRUTH!!!
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Kyaa the Catlord



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:00 am Reply with quote
You know he's a class act when he admires The East India company who made their fortune on the backs of African slaves.

Sure, they were also harsh on pirates, but thats like saying Germany had damn nice autobahns in the 1940s.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:21 am Reply with quote
@Kyaa the Catlord:
Agreed.
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:37 am Reply with quote
Takeyo wrote:
Nice choice, FUNi. A real class act. Rolling Eyes

Actually, it is a perfect choice if you think about it. Who's more likely to take the hit for the lawsuit: The "Copyright Defense Agency" or FUNimation?

So far, it's always been the lawyer firms which get the criticism because of the way they're trying to screw over due process in lieu of blackmailing routers.

If there's anything here I appreciate, it's that FUNimation's trying to pander to idiots who think the internet is a pirate's haven while at the same time trying to provide goods and services to those who aren't pirates.

Tough position, but they get kudos nonetheless.
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egoist



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:39 am Reply with quote
Which leaves me wondering just how many of their costumers also pirate. If I ever received a letter like that from Funimation I'd never touch their products again.
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ZeroDemio



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:52 am Reply with quote
I hope Stone succeeds, because I ear the devil's voice; Telling me that when Funi gets their lawsuit money, they will invest the money towards anime; And then we will get Evangelion TV, and more streaming rights, and everyone will be happy, and Tezuka will finish Phoenix, world peace, an.. HAaAAa AHH Ha!!1! Twisted Evil

According to the article, he's failed in the past, but his got the EXP.
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Soundmonkey44



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:18 pm Reply with quote
Any act that can put a stop to piracy (no matter how small or insignifigant in the long run) is a move I support.

I really dont see why people pirate in the 1st place other then their just jerks or impatiant.

ecspecially when so many shows these days have legal streams & releases.

& I know many may not have enough money to get all the anime & other stuff they want...well...tough cookies. Its like the old song goes. You cant always get what you want.
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Takeyo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:38 pm Reply with quote
Soundmonkey44 wrote:
Any act that can put a stop to piracy (no matter how small or insignifigant in the long run) is a move I support.

The various media groups could always form a U.N.-backed global task force that summarily executes anyone suspected of unauthorized copying. Betcha that would make a few people think twice about downloading.
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