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Mr Mania



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:36 am Reply with quote
Does anyone know why most anime series only run for one season when the majority of american shows run for several seasons,at least the ones that arnt cancelled.It seems strange that their are very few anime that last longer than a season.Also does anyone know why most anime episodes are 25 mins when episodes of american shows are 45 mins.I wouldnt expect japanese shows to follow excatly the same pattern as the american shows but you would think there would at leat be some similarities.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:41 am Reply with quote
People usually want new stuff, and besides, some series don't rate that well(or funding is cut or various other reasons). Anime isn't always shown along side western or more popular live action series, plus theres more money put into a certian ammount of episodes. And as for being 25 minutes, as opposed to 45, is well... production costs, and it has to last a season
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Cassandra



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:43 am Reply with quote
*blink* I can't think of any American animation shows that are 45 minutes. (That would be a 60 minute timeslot.) 25 minutes is a half hour timeslot...
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Mr Mania



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:52 am Reply with quote
Im not talking about american animated shows,Im talking about live action shows.Im making the comparison between anime and american live action because animation isnt just for kids in Japan and was wondering why it didn't run the same way most american live action shows do.
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Cassandra



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:54 am Reply with quote
Mr Mania wrote:
Im not talking about american animated shows,Im talking about live action shows.Im making the comparison between anime and american live action because animation isnt just for kids in Japan and was wondering why it didn't run the same way most american live action shows do.


That's not a good comparison. It's obviously easier to act out a character for an hour than it is to draw the character, plus the backgounds, plus the vehicles, plus whatever else is in the show...frame by frame for an hour long show.
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Yuki555



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:28 am Reply with quote
I kinda like it that way. Sometime a story just gets boring after being stretch out for too long, and not to mention the need for more money to make more.
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:33 am Reply with quote
Most orginal shows are one season because that is what they can do for plot. Manga basied shows can be much longer. But not always. Trigun's manga goes on after the final episode. No second season is planned. Some, in fact many have it so the complete managa is never animated. Ranma may have about 180 eps, but I believe it has 38 v compared to Dragonball's 36. Then again Yuyu is only 14 volumes, but it had 114 eps. Some, like Love Hina have most of their plot condensed (really badly condensed) to one season and some OVAs.
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:43 am Reply with quote
Let us not forgot one other thing...

The artistic value in a live action television show is not the same. You have creative characters, but no real sense of an ongoing STORY. (the only exception is mini-series for the most part... even other dramas that have been stretched out aren't much better...)

When it comes to anime, it's usually based on something that's been serialized already and well established in a manga first. In order to keep it going from there, the anime typically needs to follow what has already been established.

With sitcoms, they have the freedom to do a "show about nothing." With dramas, they stretch things out, and see how the ratings do to make changes when needed. But there is not much of a pre-established story and rarely is there an ideal beginning and end. It seems the end is based on ratings, and not on the ideal stopping point that the original creator thought it should be.

It's a different artform.
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Aaron White
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:12 pm Reply with quote
I read an interview with the Babylon 5 guy in which he said he had the whole story planned out from the beginning, right down to the end. But it is true that most TV series don't have predetermined uberplots. From what I hear, Robert Jordon works the same way.
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:17 pm Reply with quote
In the US, only JMS had ever done such a thing. The Prisoner and Parts of Doctor Who were like that in the UK. A planned uber plot is not done because most shows strive for multiple seasons. It is not know when the shows will be dropped and thus point less to have a five season plot for two seasons. Some times a single season can be planned, but its usually only part of it. There is less of a seperation between producer, director and writer in anime. Anno did all three in Eva. Most good single season anime are done with one main guy or guys (I am a yankee and thus that is implied to be neutral gender). Most LA US shows have many many writers not in charge, thus the story suffers resets to normal at the end of episodes.
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Aaron White
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:47 pm Reply with quote
The Prisoner is kind of a grey area on this, since McGoohan says he had the basic notion of whom #1 should be and what the end would be, but various folks involved in the show assert that the details of the resolution were worked out very much on the fly; knowing how the story should end isn't quite the same as having it all plotted out. Hideaki Anno said, early in the Eva process, that he didn't know how it would end. That it would last a season was predetermined, but the details of the story weren't preplanned.
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:32 pm Reply with quote
But both were under controll of one mind. That is extremely differant than most other series. Very few, a handful even, are planned from day one. I can only name B5 as a full length series.
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Bruce Lee



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:59 pm Reply with quote
Sort of on the subject - why are some shows 13 eps like Candidate for Goddess, and some are 26 eps like most any popular show - trigun, cb, eva, chobits, etc?
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:21 pm Reply with quote
'cause many 13 shows that were good became 24 or 26. Like Bebop.
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