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EternalNothingness



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:21 am Reply with quote
Should you believe this review at all?

Just so you know, I don't really develop my own opinions, and instead rely on reviews to determine what I should like and dislike. Years ago, when I read this review, it was like it was telling me to hate it, and I did.

It's also why I disliked the Season Four finale of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, titled "Twilight's Kingdom". I won't tell you the details, but I can tell you this: If you have a Netflix account, look up the following MLP episodes and watch them in order:

    -Princess Twilight Sparkle Parts 1 and 2
    -Rarity Takes Manehattan
    -Rainbow Falls
    -Pinkie Pride
    -It Ain't Easy Being Breezies
    -Leap of Faith
    -Twilight's Kingdom Parts 1 and 2


And trust me. I know it's not related to DBZ, but once you watch all of those episodes in order, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Otherwise...

spoiler[There was a scene in Twilight's Kingdom Part 2, where Twilight Sparkle, the main-protagonist, fought Tirek in a DBZ-style laser battle. Before that, her friends were victimized, dis-empowered, and kidnapped by Tirek, just so that he could obtain Twilight's alicorn magic.

In a way, that feels almost akin to Yamcha, Krillin, and nearly every other non-saiyan Z-fighter getting victimized and dis-empowered constantly, to motivate Goku and Vegeta into going up one Super Saiyan level after another.]


So yeah, I was influenced by a negative review to not only hate DBZ, but also the S4 finale of My Little Pony and its deliberate abandonment of the show's roots to become DBZ.
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Touma



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:40 am Reply with quote
EternalNothingness wrote:
I don't really develop my own opinions, and instead rely on reviews to determine what I should like and dislike.

I can understand relying on reviews to decide what to watch, but when you start watching a show do you not then form your own opinion and decide for yourself if you like it or not?

If you never do like something that the review says that you should not like then why do you watch something that you know that you are not going to like?

As for DBZ and MLP, I have no comments because I have not seen either of them.
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Alan45
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:28 am Reply with quote
@EternalNothingness

I see two problems with your post. The first is that a review is just one person's opinion. If it causes you to not watch that is fine. However once you watch the show in question you are supposed to make your own decision as to its quality. If you agree with the reviewer that is fine. However to hate a show you actually enjoyed is rather pathetic.

The second problem is that you seem to be saying that those episodes of My Little Pony share some plot elements with DBZ and that since you have been told to dislike the DBZ show you must therefore dislike that portion of MLP as well. Plots and portions of plots are reused in different shows with variations constantly. All you have to do is look at a years anime programs and you will see several shows that share similar plots. This is not a problem. How well the plot elements are executed and how well they fit into the story and the characters is much more important than any possible relationship to some prior show.

If you feel those episodes of MLP are bad, you should say so based on the merits of that show itself. Just because you feel it has some resemblance to a show aired years ago does not make it either good or bad.
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EternalNothingness



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:42 am Reply with quote
Alan45 wrote:
@EternalNothingness

I see two problems with your post. The first is that a review is just one person's opinion. If it causes you to not watch that is fine. However once you watch the show in question you are supposed to make your own decision as to its quality. If you agree with the reviewer that is fine. However to hate a show you actually enjoyed is rather pathetic.

The second problem is that you seem to be saying that those episodes of My Little Pony share some plot elements with DBZ and that since you have been told to dislike the DBZ show you must therefore dislike that portion of MLP as well. Plots and portions of plots are reused in different shows with variations constantly. All you have to do is look at a years anime programs and you will see several shows that share similar plots. This is not a problem. How well the plot elements are executed and how well they fit into the story and the characters is much more important than any possible relationship to some prior show.

If you feel those episodes of MLP are bad, you should say so based on the merits of that show itself. Just because you feel it has some resemblance to a show aired years ago does not make it either good or bad.


You know, maybe you're right.

I watch and enjoy One Piece because it's a better Dragon Ball Z than Dragon Ball Z itself. There is more variety in the opponents and their fighting styles and powers, and many of Luffy's Straw Hat Pirates barely get left behind in-terms of relevancy, because they do receive opponents of their very own to fight, alongside Luffy's opponent who is mostly the main-villain himself.

And, if I liked One Piece because it's a better version of DBZ, then I should be able to like the S4 story-arc of MLP, at least for the five key episodes. At the very least, in those five episodes, Twilight's friends were all useful, namely by fighting against their Elements of Harmony, teaching somepony else about their Elements, and receiving keys from them as a result.[/i]


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Alan45
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:22 am Reply with quote
The thing to keep in mind is that you should not let others define your opinion of a show.

If you enjoy watching a show, that should be your response. If a review later points out plot holes and elements that don't make sense, it is all right to revise your opinion but only if on a rewatch these cause a loss of enjoyment. If you think it is good in spite of the negative review you should say so. On the other hand, no matter how "classic" a show is, no matter how many say it is a masterpiece, if you don't like it, well that is fine as well. You are not required to like it. There is nothing more personal than the enjoyment of entertainment.
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:24 pm Reply with quote
The mlp episode you mentioned was actually one of the best ones. That show sorely needed the action.
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Tefnod



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:20 pm Reply with quote
Dragon Ball Z is bad, though Kai makes it palatable. Most of de arcs should've been cut in half: get rid of Raditz, de Ginyu Force, de androids, & de entire Buu saga.
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EternalNothingness



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:36 am Reply with quote
ChibiKangaroo wrote:
The mlp episode you mentioned was actually one of the best ones. That show sorely needed the action.


And that's the problem! Twilight's five friends fought their own Elements of Harmony, taught somepony else about their Elements, and received keys from them as a result. And the thanks they all get was being thrown under the bus for alicorn magic.

And here, you don't care about Twilight's friends or the key episodes. The single, one-minute fight is all that will ever matter to you in the S4 arc. Just as you don't care that every non-saiyan Z-fighter becomes useless and thrown under the bus for more Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan transformations.
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:07 am Reply with quote
At least with DBZ they routinely have butt-kicking action going on. My only point was this mlp show has been a bit of a snoozer for a while now. They're starting to run out of ideas for cutie mark crusader episodes and other crappy filler. It was refreshing to see some power-ups and butt-kicking. I hope they do it more Smile
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