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KH91



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:52 am Reply with quote
Touken Ranbu domination! WTF people! Buy Maid Dragon! AssBomba movie.

You did amazing Yu-Gi-Oh!: The GOAT Side of Dimensions. Now it is time for you to rest...assuming you don't chart next week.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:29 am Reply with quote
I love Dragon Maid and just wish it did a bit better in sales. At least it did better then Flip Flappers, so I can't be as sad as I was then I suppose.
Next Season while I'm happy for Attack on Titan fans getting a new season it's just going to massacre everything else coming out, so I'm already prepared for whatever spring shows I like to flop miserably.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:05 am Reply with quote
Huh was expecting at least 4k for dragon maid...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:17 am Reply with quote
FrozenMoon wrote:
I love Dragon Maid and just wish it did a bit better in sales. At least it did better then Flip Flappers, so I can't be as sad as I was then I suppose.
Next Season while I'm happy for Attack on Titan fans getting a new season it's just going to massacre everything else coming out, so I'm already prepared for whatever spring shows I like to flop miserably.

Not with Granblue airing next season.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:41 am Reply with quote
Could someone inform me what constitute a decent amount of sales for a particular title? From which it means that the series managed to make enough without being considered as a flop.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:58 am Reply with quote
Afezeria wrote:
Could someone inform me what constitute a decent amount of sales for a particular title? From which it means that the series managed to make enough without being considered as a flop.


The honest answer is "it depends." There's so many factors and other types of revenue that go into anime production that get ignored. These numbers are pure estimates from Oricon based off of their partner stores; they're not the amount that are actually sold to consumers since Oricon doesn't track literally every store. A fair amount of company online stores don't get tracked; it's really Aniplex's Aniplex+ store that's the only big one that sends information to Oricon.

Besides, these don't account for merchandise, international rights, music sales, music rights sales (like to games/other programs), events, and so forth. Using only these numbers is ignorant of everything else that's out there. It's why only trolls use them to insult shows they don't like.
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:02 am Reply with quote
Man, I wonder how long the tail ends of those Love Live Sunshine discs will last. Miss Kobayashi could use some of those.
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Afezeria



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:15 am Reply with quote
@Ultimate, a'ight, thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:37 am Reply with quote
ultimatemegax wrote:


These numbers are pure estimates from Oricon based off of their partner stores; they're not the amount that are actually sold to consumers since Oricon doesn't track literally every store. A fair amount of company online stores don't get tracked; it's really Aniplex's Aniplex+ store that's the only big one that sends information to Oricon.



Thanks for the info I did not know that from now on I'll be sure to take these sales numbers with a grain of salt.
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:35 am Reply with quote
Not a bad number for Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid with 2,330...
The Happy Party Train of Love Live Sunshine is slowing down to a close...
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Double Mangekyo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:52 am Reply with quote
Afezeria wrote:
Could someone inform me what constitute a decent amount of sales for a particular title? From which it means that the series managed to make enough without being considered as a flop.

It is important to take what ultimatemegax explained into account...
That said, going on disc sales alone, I think you can consider over 3000 copies per volume as breaking even.
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Kreion



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:31 am Reply with quote
ultimatemegax wrote:
Afezeria wrote:
Could someone inform me what constitute a decent amount of sales for a particular title? From which it means that the series managed to make enough without being considered as a flop.


The honest answer is "it depends." There's so many factors and other types of revenue that go into anime production that get ignored. These numbers are pure estimates from Oricon based off of their partner stores; they're not the amount that are actually sold to consumers since Oricon doesn't track literally every store. A fair amount of company online stores don't get tracked; it's really Aniplex's Aniplex+ store that's the only big one that sends information to Oricon.

Besides, these don't account for merchandise, international rights, music sales, music rights sales (like to games/other programs), events, and so forth. Using only these numbers is ignorant of everything else that's out there. It's why only trolls use them to insult shows they don't like.


Ignoring these sales is just as ignorant since the sales ARE important as they basically give you a base level of how well the series did. It's like saying that just looking at the gross for a movie is completely ignorant - it's not, but it's certainly not the whole picture. You are correct on the whole but your last sentence is just pointless, since this is about the only information that we can get it is obviously the thing which people use to understand how well a series did.

The only other thing you really get is the manga/LN sales - which similarly you aren't going to get the whole picture, and the end of the year totals - same problem.

So again, take the numbers with a pinch of salt and keep in mind that many anime are made as advertisements - so looking to see how big the sales spike is in LN/Manga is useful. But saying that the numbers mean nothing is, in itself, ignorant.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:50 am Reply with quote
Kreion wrote:
ultimatemegax wrote:
Afezeria wrote:
Could someone inform me what constitute a decent amount of sales for a particular title? From which it means that the series managed to make enough without being considered as a flop.


The honest answer is "it depends." There's so many factors and other types of revenue that go into anime production that get ignored. These numbers are pure estimates from Oricon based off of their partner stores; they're not the amount that are actually sold to consumers since Oricon doesn't track literally every store. A fair amount of company online stores don't get tracked; it's really Aniplex's Aniplex+ store that's the only big one that sends information to Oricon.

Besides, these don't account for merchandise, international rights, music sales, music rights sales (like to games/other programs), events, and so forth. Using only these numbers is ignorant of everything else that's out there. It's why only trolls use them to insult shows they don't like.


Ignoring these sales is just as ignorant since the sales ARE important as they basically give you a base level of how well the series did. It's like saying that just looking at the gross for a movie is completely ignorant - it's not, but it's certainly not the whole picture. You are correct on the whole but your last sentence is just pointless, since this is about the only information that we can get it is obviously the thing which people use to understand how well a series did.

The only other thing you really get is the manga/LN sales - which similarly you aren't going to get the whole picture, and the end of the year totals - same problem.

So again, take the numbers with a pinch of salt and keep in mind that many anime are made as advertisements - so looking to see how big the sales spike is in LN/Manga is useful. But saying that the numbers mean nothing is, in itself, ignorant.


Except you're very wrong. The majority of a Hollywood movies income come from box office ticket sales, as that is by far their largest market. On the contrary however, the anime industry reported in 2015 that they did 1.83 trillion Yen in revenue. Whereas the BD/DVD disc sales for anime in 2015 only generated 217.215 Billion Yen in revenue. Meaning that only 11.8% of the entire market of Anime revenue of 2015 came from BD/DVD sales. That is a very small slice of the pie, which is why disc sales should ALWAYS be taken with a hefty grain of salt.
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:54 am Reply with quote
Maid Dragon selling poorly was inevitable.
That's what happens when a loli becomes by far the most popular character, but in an anti-lolicon anime adaptation.
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Moroboshi-san



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:00 am Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
Not a bad number for Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid with 2,330...

Yep, it is on it's way to become the worst selling KyoAni-show.
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