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fantaselion



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:48 pm Reply with quote
the #1 looks........... yea
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aereus



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:46 pm Reply with quote
fantaselion wrote:
the #1 looks........... yea


You have noooooo idea. That will never be licensed in English, the drama surrounding it would be nuts.

It's B-movie campy harem revenge porn, essentially. Most of the main characters are 13-15 and almost all of the major scenes in the story involve stuff I wouldn't dare repeat here. I skimmed through some of it last week from morbid curiosity on if it ever got more nuanced. Nope.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:55 pm Reply with quote
aereus wrote:
fantaselion wrote:
the #1 looks........... yea


You have noooooo idea. That will never be licensed in English, the drama surrounding it would be nuts.

It's B-movie campy harem revenge porn, essentially. Most of the main characters are 13-15 and almost all of the major scenes in the story involve stuff I wouldn't dare repeat here. I skimmed through some of it last week from morbid curiosity on if it ever got more nuanced. Nope.

Looking at reviews of it, the "hero" using rape as justice has me not wanting to read this series.
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BlueAlf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:07 pm Reply with quote
I'm a bit disturbed by the top rankings. aerues said it best about the number 1.

On the other hand, Sazane Kei's new work reaching that high is pretty impressive. The premise sounds interesting too.
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aereus



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 pm Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:

Looking at reviews of it, the "hero" using rape as justice has me not wanting to read this series.


What bothers me the most is a core issue in many of these stories licensed from Syosetu ni Narou: They're started as personal wish-fulfillment/self-insert/fetish stories a few pages at a time by your average guy/girl. Which means theres often a lack of planning and overall the writing isn't very good.

In this case, the issue that bothered me the most is the author is VERY inconsistent with Kearu's motivations and how he responds to situations. Its hard to tell if its truly supposed to be campy or serious. His revenge is carried out so flippantly I can't tell if the author intends for the MC to be hypocritical, or merely an unhinged maniac.

My best description would be he's like combining Batman+The Joker.
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Joshua Zarate
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:24 pm Reply with quote
#2 sounds like fun. I wonder how much time will pass until maybe that LN reaches number one on this type of list, especially since it’s by the same creator as the relatively successful Konosuba.
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BlueAlf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:15 pm Reply with quote
@CrownKlown Speaking for myself, I'm not offended by the title itself, but more of the fact it actually got 1st place.

Personally, I also think it is worse than the titles you mentioned, but let's not go into that.
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Chrono1000



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:34 pm Reply with quote
I am a little surprised to see that none of the top three light novels are isekai though I guess there are a few in the top ten. The number two poll result about a super advanced evil organization invading a fantasy world sounds like it could be interesting. That the light novel was written by the same author who made Konosuba also increases the odds of it getting licensed.
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aereus



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:16 am Reply with quote
Chrono1000 wrote:
I am a little surprised to see that none of the top three light novels are isekai though I guess there are a few in the top ten.


I was just discussing this with some people.
TLDR: The current fad was never just about isekai, even though it was the most predominant point. Fantasy/Isekai/VRMMO/RPG Element stories all share the same broad "fad genre" atm.

All of that same sort of stuff shot up in popularity at the same time, and while sharing a large amount of commonalities. IE: If you could distill them all into 10 features, each type would have 8/10 of those features. Which is why if you look at the Top10 it's: Fantasy+RPG Elements, People going to a Fantasy world (isekai by another name), Fantasy and possibly RPG Elements, Not Fad, Fantasy/Isekai/RPG Elements, Fantasy VRMMO/Death Game, Not Fad, Fantasy, Isekai/Fantasy, Campione spinoff which features Fantasy elements.
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SkyLETV34



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:23 am Reply with quote
Number 2 looks like fun.... wait, it's by the same author who wrote Konosuba. Awesome!
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gacha



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:33 am Reply with quote
That healer novel looks mighty fun too, the fact that it would irritate the most annoying people on the internet is also a plus.
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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:43 am Reply with quote
Some of those synopses read like the were generated by the Netflix film algorithm.
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MsVitchDaSecond



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:02 am Reply with quote
really need an anime for Combatants Will Be Dispatched, comedy's on point!
by creator of konosuba
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Jonny Mendes



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:03 am Reply with quote
aereus wrote:

What bothers me the most is a core issue in many of these stories licensed from Syosetu ni Narou: They're started as personal wish-fulfillment/self-insert/fetish stories a few pages at a time by your average guy/girl. Which means theres often a lack of planning and overall the writing isn't very good.


Welcome to the world of Light Novels.

Most light novels start this way in the age of internet .
A high-school student or young adult that like to write and start putting his/her story online on his /her blog as a web-novel. SAO started this way.

Nowdays there are these sites that act like web novels social media, were new authors (usually very young and with very little experience) put their WN, were they interact with people that read them and other authors that give ideas. If the story gather many followers (like followers in Facebook/Twitter) they continue putting new chapters.

Big publishers follow this sites and look at the most popular ones, contact the authors and assign experienced editors so that their novels can be published.

So don't expect great writing and planing. The age of LN contests were experienced people look at the best of the crop to publish them and where aspiring authors go from publisher to publisher showing their works are coming to a end.
Now is a the age were LN's from new authors start as Web novels in that WN sharing sites.

Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi: Sokushi Mahou to Skill Copy no Choetsu Heal is one of those.
Also the most popular ones are those wish-fulfillment/self-insert/fetish stories, so you can expect more to come in the near future.
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nargun



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:02 am Reply with quote
Jonny Mendes wrote:
Also the most popular ones are those wish-fulfillment/self-insert/fetish stories, so you can expect more to come in the near future.


Turns out there's a lot of unmet demand for... well, shit.

+ keep the characters "straightforward", which means, well, unconflicted. Singular motivation, so the character-development becomes "will they or won't they", not "which conflicting desire will they act to actualise".

+ your characters have to be one-note, which makes inner conflict, and conventional narrative, difficult. You can get around this by spreading out a normal character's worth of motivation over a whole group and making the conflict inter-personal rather than interior.

+ externalising conflict means verbalising it, and boy can you verbalise it. "I want to do the thing", said the blue-haired beauty, famed for her desire for thing-doing. She did the thing. "I always wanted to do the thing", she said, pouting. Her raven-haired sister sighed. "You know I

+ keep your character relationships simple. Have a readilly-identifiable core character, and have all the other characters relate solely to that character, with no secondary characters having significant interactions with each other except mediated through the main.
this reduces the difficulty as your cast grows, because you only have to remember N relationships not N^2.

It's... it's like fiction with training wheels, innit.
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