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headpower
Joined: 03 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:59 pm |
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I know Macross TV released around 1982 and Do you remember Love released in 1984. I know how movie graphics is always superior to TV, but after watching Do you remember love, i just cant bring myself to watch the TV series. Macross TV feel more like the 70's anime more than the 80's. I watched Gundam Z which was released around 1985 and I enjoyied it in terms of graphics and story, but macross I donno it just feel so weird, at times I feel that scene just need more frames. Anyone care to tell me was the original Macross TV series was a low budget anime, even the story is interesting, I am struggling through it because i feel like watching still image at times.
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demonroach
Joined: 06 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:22 pm |
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I forced myself to watch it, and yeah, the animation is horrible, plus the English dubs are nothing but ridiculous . I would just suggest watching the newer macross series instead if you can't bear with it. I still can't understand why Minmay was the only one dubbed in a horrible foreign accent. I mean, she sounded like some transfer student who couldn't speak English, while all the other dubs had normal American accents... Anyway, don't force yourself to watch it, because even if the animation and script was perfect, the storlyline is comical at best.
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Westlo
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:56 pm |
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The 2006 ADV English Lynn Minmay was the same VA as the 1982 Japanese release, Mari Iijima.
Megumi Nakajima/Ranka Lee from Macross Frontier on the left, Mari Iijima/Lynn Minmay on the right
Also Macross had several animation teams working on it and it's clear one was more talented than the other(s). Zeta Gundam was the sequel to the massively popular Mobile Suit Gundam, of course it looked far superior to the brand new (and 3 years older) Macross. Macross Plus for instance probably set the standard for OVA releases in 94, just like Zero did in... 03? and Frontier will for tv shows this year. Sequels to popular things tend to get a lot bigger budgets than brand new shows...
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Randall Miyashiro
Joined: 12 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:56 am |
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If I were to pick a moment when anime changed the most (1998-1999 is a close second) I would say it would be between the years of 1983-1985. Most of the series leading up to 1983 seem to use a different style and color pallet compared to shows after 1985. Shading also seemed to change between these years.
If you look at Tomino's Sunrise shows you can see a dramatic change in animation style between Dunbine 1983, L-Gaim 1984 and Zeta Gundam. It's almost hard to believe that these series began the week after the previous series ended. I don't think that there was a big improvement in the four years between First Gundam to Dunbine nor was there a big jump in the many years between Zeta to Victory which to me looked worse. It is no surprise that the Macross movie looked so much better considering the advances in style as well as of course budget.
There are always those few movies that are ahead of their time like Cagliostro's Castle and Harmageddon, and in some ways Macross feels ahead of it's 1984 television shows.
With that said I still love Macross with it's occasional awfully animated episode. The movie is still one of my all time favorites. I considered ordering the new R2 HD remastered version, but decided to wait for an HD release instead.
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Steve Berry
Joined: 22 Apr 2003
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:56 am |
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Portions of the the Macross TV show were farmed out to a Korean studio, as I remember-- the quality obviously drops in these episodes. Still, the first 2 eps are high quality for the time period-- for example, the aerial fight sequences are pretty fluid, and the characters stay close to the "model" of what they're supposed to look like. There are stills as well, but stills seem to be something all anime uses. I see them all over the place today with new shows.
The show's about 25 years old, so yeah, the animation is dated, but I've always liked the character designs for Macross, and haven't found the animation particularly bad at all for a show from the early 80's-- my understanding is that those sections that were animated in house were considered high quality for a TV show at the time.
Of course, I also like the plot and the characters. That covers up a lot of other issues I'm sure.
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