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RedvsBlue



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:03 pm Reply with quote
What is it?

Normally when I look on Ebay for manga this comes up. It looks like Yaoi stuff but I dont know.

Can someone please explain this to me and tell me what Doujinshi stands for?
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Goshin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:27 pm Reply with quote
If you want an actual definition then look no further than ANN’s Lexicon.
animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=16
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Most of it is just hentai versions of anime titles. There are some non-hentai doujin, but its not as prevalent. Not that I don't mind that the hentai type exists.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:40 pm Reply with quote
I don't think hentai doujinshi is as prevalent as we all think, it's just that that's the type that interests us American fans. There's probably a lot more stuff like Haibane Renmei, except since it lacks the ties to anime, none of us care.
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Nani?



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:08 pm Reply with quote
Doujinshi are self published, self produced manga, and often are the proving grounds of the "big time" manga artists. Clamp, for example, came out of the ranks of Doushiji Artists.
They either have original characters such as Haibane Renmei, the only doujinshi I know of to be made into an Anime, or they can be very "fanfic" with the use of published characters. Copyright laws are not as strict.
In general they tend to be a bit more "expeimental" and can include Hentai. Some that I know about include a teenage delinquent Cardcaptor Sakura, Godzilla vs North Korea, Kenshin and Karou's first "encounter" in detail.

All the Best,

Nani?
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RedvsBlue



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:12 pm Reply with quote
Wow. I didn't know CLAMP started out doing Doushiji. Very cool.

Thanks for the information. I have a better idea now of what Doushiji is and if I should buy it or not.

Thanks a bunch.

*and sorry about the misspelling of it. Razz *
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:34 pm Reply with quote
Hentai doujinshi, like said before, do not outnumber the doujinshi out there. It's just that all the yaoi fangirls are the biggest buyers in the US. As long as you stay away from things labled "yaoi", "yuri", and "h-doujin", as well as doujinshi with "adult only" on the cover, you'll be safe.

If you're a collector of a certian series, and already have all the official merchandise you want, look into doujinshi collecting. There's a lot of really gorgeous ones out there, and it's intresting too to see all the upcoming artist in Japan with really great art styles. Some other manga artist who used to be doujinshi artist for sure are Kaori Yuki (Angel Sanctuary) and Kouyu Shurei (Alichino). In fact, doujinshi creation is a very popular way for manga artist to get a start *it's great excersize/practice* so you can pretty much assume that most of the manga artist of the last 15 years have a doujinshi out there they created somewhere.
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Dilandau



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:26 am Reply with quote
Nani? wrote:
Clamp, for example, came out of the ranks of Doushiji Artists.
They either have original characters such as Haibane Renmei, the only doujinshi I know of to be made into an Anime



Rumiko Takahashi, and..umm the guy that does Gunsmith Cats also came from doujin origins.

Haibane Renmei was a doujin done by the already famous Yoshitoshi ABe (lain, Texnolyze) for fun. It just sorta got noticed by his co-workers and "exploited". lol
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:30 pm Reply with quote
There's supposly Trigun Doujishi but I never brought it because the original author Nightow has no involvement. It looks like anther cheap rip-off to cash in the Trigun success. If people use thier own character, I don't mind. But when people just take someone else character and use it for thier own story, than I feel like it's a cheap rip-off.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:16 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
There's supposly Trigun Doujishi but I never brought it because the original author Nightow has no involvement. It looks like anther cheap rip-off to cash in the Trigun success. If people use thier own character, I don't mind. But when people just take someone else character and use it for thier own story, than I feel like it's a cheap rip-off.


That's one of the good things about doujinshi. They can only make a certian amount of copies of the doujinshi, and they can't sell them for very much. Usually the price of the doujinshi they sell it for is just to cover the cost of producing it. They're purely for fan collecting. Doujinshi circles can't support themselves off of doujinshi.
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:37 am Reply with quote
jfrog wrote:
I don't think hentai doujinshi is as prevalent as we all think, it's just that that's the type that interests us American fans. There's probably a lot more stuff like Haibane Renmei, except since it lacks the ties to anime, none of us care.

I heard somewhere that a doujinshi of Abe was the actual basis for the anime.
But I've read a couple of doujinshi just to see what they were like (ones based on preivious works). It was a bit weird trying to read something that wasn't written by a particular author, but was trying to make it seem like it was his work. Sorry, I salute you artists who are making the effort, but I'll stick to the original.
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Annie_Jr



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:42 am Reply with quote
I like doujinshis. They have good art and story tellings. They are compelling and make you want to read more. I currently own plenty in my house mainly for my entertainment. They are interesting with sly humor.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:48 pm Reply with quote
Jinchuu wrote:
What is it?
Normally when I look on Ebay for manga this comes up. It looks like Yaoi stuff but I don't know.

Can someone please explain this to me and tell me what Doujinshi stands for?


animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=16

n, self-published manga; lit "same stuff, different people"; pronounced doh-o-jeen-shee)

Doujinshi (often shortened to "doujin") are non-professional and/or self published comics. Doujinshi can be broken into two broad categories: fan-comics and original works. Fan-comics, much like fan-fiction, based on established properties and created by fans of those properties. Original works are based on the doujinshi-ka's (creator) original ideas. The only difference between mainstream manga and original doujinshi is that the doujinshi is not published by a publishing company, it is self-published the doujinshi-ka.

Doujinshi is essentially amateur comic publishing, but not all doujinshi-ka are amateurs. Many professional, published artists continue to self publish doujinshi in addition to their mainstream manga. These doujinshi may be new original works that they chose not to (or are unable to) have published by a larger company. They can also be side-stories that the artists create for fans of their published works.

Many established artists started their careers as doujinshi-ka. Yoshitoshi ABe's Haibane Renmei was based on one of his doujinshi works.

A large ammount of doujinshi is pornographic in nature. It is very common for doujinshi-ka to create secually explicit stories using characters from established manga such as Sailor Moon, Gravitation, Read or Die, Please Teacher and so-on. Sometimes even the original creators produce pornographic doujin side-stories to their published work.

Doujinshi Circle: A group of doujinshi-ka that work together, either co-creating projects or providing each other with support to work on their own projects. CLAMP was originally a Doujinshi Circle.

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Sarki-Kun



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:46 am Reply with quote
Er, next time, you could at least say from where did you take it out. Even more, you could discover that there's already a link, hehe.
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