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Answerman - Did The Fans Kill Anime Strike?


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Takkun4343



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:09 pm Reply with quote
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Anyone remember when Warner Bros. tried to release JoJo's Bizarre Adventure on their own?

I still own their DVD release. It may not be as good as VIZ's re-release, but I'm glad I have a copy regardless.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:27 pm Reply with quote
The title should be, based on the question, "Is Anime Strikes demise a good thing for the industry"
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:32 pm Reply with quote
Amazon made so many mistakes with Anime Strike that failure was almost guaranteed and the only surprise was that they pulled the plug on it so quickly. As a fan of dubs I was disappointed every time a show was announced for Anime Strike and while Netflix is a tad obsessed with binge watching at least they spend the money to properly support it. Amazon on the other hand was half hearted about anime and never even attempted to understand the market.
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CatSword



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:36 pm Reply with quote
At the end of the day, yes, the fans did kill Anime Strike, since they're the ones who voted with their wallets and didn't support it. If it were doing exceptionally well for Amazon, they would've kept it around, new management or not.

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Tuor_of_Gondolin



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:37 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
The title should be, based on the question, "Is Anime Strikes demise a good thing for the industry"

The answer I'll give is: yes, it is. Amazon was running up costs and putting its product behind two paywalls. It was also Yet Another Streaming Service in an already overloaded field.

Frankly: good riddance to bad rubbish. I won't miss you, Amazon Strike.
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Animegunclub



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:43 pm Reply with quote
I feel Amazon almost got it right but there were so many factors that they could not control and did not really do the appropriate research in the industry.

I understand simulcast licensing can get pricy, so I wasn't too upset with the pricing structure. Not to mention, Amazon Prime is something I'd have... with or without Strike being available. $5 was not exactly an expensive monthly charge to me.

But I could see why people decided to slip back into piracy for those series if they didn't have an Amazon Prime account. What they should have done is open a separate streaming company for it or buy an existing one and keep it separate from Amazon Video.

Outside of the double pay wall, Amazon Video's apps are competent but still kinda clunky. The biggest problem I had with the service were that the subtitle track options were godawful, and the timing frequently slipped (and it looked like they were perfectly fine with that).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:51 pm Reply with quote
I just mainstreamed the eight episodes of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel yesterday evening while Rachel Brosnahan was winning a Golden Globe for her performance. Not everything Amazon touches turns to dross.

I always wonder if my reactions to shows like this reflect the fact I was alive during the period being portrayed and easily recognized the stand-ins for The Kingston Trio, The Smothers Brothers, and other acts of the time.

I suspect one reason for the end of Strike and the Bollywood channel is that Amazon realized it didn't need to pursue niche audiences. My only concern is that Amazon did have the licenses for most of the shows I rated most highly in 2017. Will we continue to see shows like Made in Abyss and Princess Principal without Amazon's deep pockets?


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Angel M Cazares



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:53 pm Reply with quote
I also celebrate that Anime Strike is no more. But if Amazon is giving boatloads of money to the industry, I would not mind if they keep licencing 4-5 shows each season for regular Prime Video.

Answerman wrote:
But Amazon did play a huge role in driving up licensing costs to their current stratospheric levels.

I was under the impression that the start of a fierce competition between Funimation and Crunchyroll in 2015 is what caused licence prices to skyrocket. I have no doubts that Amazon further contributed to this, but they became a bigger anime player until 2017.
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Erebus25



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:58 pm Reply with quote
Despite all the bad things about Strike, there was a person there who had a good sense about picking titles to be their exclusives.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Feels like the articile doesnt address if amazon us will continue to get anime, or even in general that amzon will probably not stop being a key force in international and jpn anime streaming and even deal making. Would the deal with the two blocks be nullified?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:01 pm Reply with quote
Animegunclub wrote:
What they should have done is open a separate streaming company for it or buy an existing one and keep it separate from Amazon Video.


To be honest, this was what I thought they would do. After all Amazon dropped approx $15 Billion for Whole Foods and are supposed to be contemplating $41 Billion for Target. They could have bought any ( or all! ) of the Anime streaming services. Starting their own without a clear understanding of the market they were entering is out of character for Amazon.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:02 pm Reply with quote
Amazon's decision to spend between $200-$250-million for the rights ALONE to Lord of the Rings as a TV adaptation (remember, that doesn't inculde a cent to actually make the show) suggests that even the change in senior management isn't yielding much intelligent consideration.
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Яeverse



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:05 pm Reply with quote
mgosdin wrote:
Animegunclub wrote:
What they should have done is open a separate streaming company for it or buy an existing one and keep it separate from Amazon Video.


To be honest, this was what I thought they would do. After all Amazon dropped approx $15 Billion for Whole Foods and are supposed to be contemplating $41 Billion for Target. They could have bought any ( or all! ) of the Anime streaming services. Starting their own without a clear understanding of the market they were entering is out of character for Amazon.

Mark Gosdin


When does one analysts prophecy = AMZN IS contemplating???
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:07 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
The title should be, based on the question, "Is Anime Strikes demise a good thing for the industry"

Even as a subscriber for most of AS's history, I would have to say "Yes".

As noted, it pushed up licensing costs. Keep in mind most of the time the studios don't benefit from this, the member of the production committee controlling international licensing does.

It also further segmented the availability of anime for the consumer. (Even outside the US, people had to go to either Prime Video or HIDIVE, depending on whether the series was direct Amazon license or one via Sentai). While one company having a monopoly is rarely a good thing, the CR/Funimation partnership still doesn't get every simulcast each season.

A positive would have been if it did a good job of exposing anime to a broader audience (as I believe Netflix does), but I don't feel it didn't. It required an additional subscription, and most people have enough experience with free trials to know they'll probably forget to cancel. They also didn't seem to promote that well, especially to the qualified audience of Prime subscribers.

I am thankful for them bringing some titles I probably would never have seen on any other anime service (e.g. the 3 Nanoha series, and the Garden of Sinners movies), but beyond that I believe the only thing some people will miss is the ability to download episodes (with a supported device) for offline viewing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:09 pm Reply with quote
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Anyone remember when Warner Bros. tried to release JoJo's Bizarre Adventure on their own?


Oh yeah, last seen in the trash where it belongs, so glad that's not a thing anymore
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