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animalia555
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Is all of Berserk's Golden Age Saga flashbacks or are there a little bit of real time right before and after it, and if it ISN'T all flashbacks, are there any fights outside of them?
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Noggy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:30 pm |
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The Golden Age flashback begins in I believe volume four. There was plenty of fighting before the flashback begins. I just read past where the anime ends, so I'm not sure when exactly it catches up to "real time" as you put it (the first three volumes). And no, the series (as far as I've read) doesn't switch back and forth between the "real time" and the flashback.
I hope somewhere I answered what you asked because I'm not totally sure what the question was.
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godakame
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:32 pm |
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You probably should have asked this question in that Berserk thread you started in the anime section. But anyways, to answer your question bluntly, yes it's all a flashback. Then again I would hesitate to call it a flashback; flashbacks are suppose to be quick short glimpse of the past, right? Well the golden age arc spans the last chapter of vol 3 to the begginng of vol 14. It just reccounts the events that made Gutts such an angry man. You get to see Gutts as a wee one, and progressively work his way up to his terminator on steroids status.
I don't really know what you mean by "real time". And when you say "are there any fights outside of them", when Gutts ain't busy smashing people's heads inside out, he is constantly decapitating demons and sodomizing animals...er it's deeper than just some guy killing anything that moves, but you get the point. Berserk's golden age arc gives you those epic wars, and some pretty sweet battles. Some consider it the best arc of the series.
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:38 pm |
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| godakame wrote: | |
I don't really know what you mean by "real time". |
I'm assuming he means the "present" time, right before it went to the "flashback"/Golden Age arc.
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animalia555
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:49 pm |
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| Quote: | | I'm assuming he means the "present" time, right before it went to the "flashback"/Golden Age arc. |
I do. Also I am sorry about starting another thread. But I thought that since one was aquestion about the anime, and one about the manga, I thought the questions should go in different forums.
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fighterholic
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:54 am |
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Well, technically this does stand as a question that is seperate from the anime. Yes, the Golden Age arc is a flashback, showing the glory days of the First Band of the Hawk before its fall at the Eclipse. In fact the flashback continues until the story of the Second Eclipse unfolds actually.
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coolerimmortal
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:45 pm |
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Yes, the Golden Age is a flashback. It's a very good flashback, probably the best part of the series. It's not boring like many flashbacks are.
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unhealthyman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:40 am |
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If you count the first volume Black Swordsman arc as the 'present' then (this spoiler will tell you when it catches up with then by the way,) Volume 32 (just coming out at the moment,) is just about to catch up with the Black Swordsman as far as I can tell... Although maybe I should reread the first 3 volumes to be certain.
I wouldn't call it a flashback, just a way of telling the story. A flashback is like Sasukes flashbacks in Naruto or something, where half an episode or an episode is used to fill in parts of the past.
I would count the part at in the first volume more as a premonition as what will come rather than as the 'present.'
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animalia555
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:16 pm |
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I'd count it just like I count the many chapter long flashback sequences in TenTen.
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HellKorn
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| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:32 pm |
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| unhealthyman wrote: | | If you count the first volume Black Swordsman arc as the 'present' then (this spoiler will tell you when it catches up with then by the way,) Volume 32 (just coming out at the moment,) is just about to catch up with the Black Swordsman as far as I can tell... Although maybe I should reread the first 3 volumes to be certain. |
Uh, the Black Swordsman arc has already been visited and passed. After the Golden Age arc is over and we go into the Retribution arc, starting off with the Lost Children chapters.
| Quote: | | I wouldn't call it a flashback, just a way of telling the story. A flashback is like Sasukes flashbacks in Naruto or something, where half an episode or an episode is used to fill in parts of the past. |
I'd be inclined to agree. I would say that ten volumes worth of material wouldn't warrant a general label of a "flashback."
| Quote: | | I would count the part at in the first volume more as a premonition as what will come rather than as the 'present.' |
The first two volumes and most of the third are showing us what is happening right now, and we essentially get a glimpse into WHY things are like they are. Gungrave is similar in that way, although at least with the Berserk manga it shows promise of a larger picture in the "present opening," and also doesn't stumble into mediocrity after we get out of the "history" portion of the story.
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coolerimmortal
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:56 pm |
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| unhealthyman wrote: | | If you count the first volume Black Swordsman arc as the 'present' then (this spoiler will tell you when it catches up with then by the way,) Volume 32 (just coming out at the moment,) is just about to catch up with the Black Swordsman as far as I can tell... Although maybe I should reread the first 3 volumes to be certain.
I wouldn't call it a flashback, just a way of telling the story. A flashback is like Sasukes flashbacks in Naruto or something, where half an episode or an episode is used to fill in parts of the past.
I would count the part at in the first volume more as a premonition as what will come rather than as the 'present.' |
No.
The Black Swordsman arc happens somewhere after volume 13 but before volume 15. Chronologically, it goes like this:
Golden Age-->Black Swordsman-->Retribution-->Millenium Falcon
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bennyb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:39 am |
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| coolerimmortal wrote: | | unhealthyman wrote: | | If you count the first volume Black Swordsman arc as the 'present' then (this spoiler will tell you when it catches up with then by the way,) Volume 32 (just coming out at the moment,) is just about to catch up with the Black Swordsman as far as I can tell... Although maybe I should reread the first 3 volumes to be certain.
I wouldn't call it a flashback, just a way of telling the story. A flashback is like Sasukes flashbacks in Naruto or something, where half an episode or an episode is used to fill in parts of the past.
I would count the part at in the first volume more as a premonition as what will come rather than as the 'present.' |
No.
The Black Swordsman arc happens somewhere after volume 13 but before volume 15. Chronologically, it goes like this:
Golden Age-->Black Swordsman-->Retribution-->Millenium Falcon |
As I understood it, the first 3 volumes all dealth with happenings that took place AFTER the Golden Age arc, but "before" the Black Swordsman arc "starts" with Gatsu at the old blacksmith's shop.
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:47 am |
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I haven't read past the Eclipse yet (RightStuf hasn't gotten volume 13 in yet for some reason) but it has to happen after he gets his fake arm and a new sword.
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fighterholic
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:32 am |
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After they get out of the Eclipse there is a telling of what happens to Guts and Casca right after the Eclipse. Then Guts leaves, and he has his fake arm.
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coolerimmortal
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:10 pm |
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| bennyb wrote: | | coolerimmortal wrote: | | unhealthyman wrote: | | If you count the first volume Black Swordsman arc as the 'present' then (this spoiler will tell you when it catches up with then by the way,) Volume 32 (just coming out at the moment,) is just about to catch up with the Black Swordsman as far as I can tell... Although maybe I should reread the first 3 volumes to be certain.
I wouldn't call it a flashback, just a way of telling the story. A flashback is like Sasukes flashbacks in Naruto or something, where half an episode or an episode is used to fill in parts of the past.
I would count the part at in the first volume more as a premonition as what will come rather than as the 'present.' |
No.
The Black Swordsman arc happens somewhere after volume 13 but before volume 15. Chronologically, it goes like this:
Golden Age-->Black Swordsman-->Retribution-->Millenium Falcon |
As I understood it, the first 3 volumes all dealth with happenings that took place AFTER the Golden Age arc, but "before" the Black Swordsman arc "starts" with Gatsu at the old blacksmith's shop. |
The first three volumes are the Black Swordsman arc. The volumes following the Golden Age arc are the Retribution arc.
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