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AnimeLordLuis



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:39 am Reply with quote
If it wasn't for the questionable expression on her face the poster might not have been taken down it would have been fine if she just had a smile on her face. Smile
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Arale Kurashiki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:42 am Reply with quote
There's no point in arguing with people like Cyberphobe. That kind of person tries to tear down any criticism with the word "PC". What people like that don't realize is that politically correct originally referred to punching up, at "the man", at the people in power who determined what was correct. But publically-displayed posters of embarrassed anime boob girls are uncomfortable for a lot of women - it's a poster that's punching down, especially in Japan where misogyny (and sexual harassment) is even more of a problem than it is here.

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If she was about to be a victim of a horrible crime, she'd look absolutely petrified with tears running down her face instead of having a look of being mildly embarrassed due to a wardrobe malfunction.


In real life? Yes. In anime? No. In (cheap, poor) anime, being groped and sexually assaulted is very often played off as a joke or as a mild discomfort. It's very important to realize the contexts in which a work is being created in and what that implies. This is an anime woman, and she is reacting as the industry would write an anime woman to.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:37 am Reply with quote
The problem with these sexualized posters is that they were for EVERYONE not just otaku. They would have been pinned up at companies and schools, and people didn't feel comfortable with that. I would have said the same thing if they had used a picture of the main character's best friend in that dick speedo (which happens in the anime on multiple occasions), it would have been just as inappropriate. While I'm usually lenient with sex appeal in anime as long as it's tasteful, this is a poster that is supposed to appeal to anime fans living in and outside of the town. This portrays anime fans as mysognistic not-so-nice-people who don't care about the farming, but for meat bags on women. I actually kind of like No-Rin. Had they used fun, appropriate, fitting posters that show the characters having fun together with farming, I think it could have been a great collaboration. The fact that the committee thought this was ok baffles me.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:49 am Reply with quote
Japanese fighting back how they're portrayed?


Cyberphobe wrote:

Where I come from seeing advertisements that use sex to gain attention is the norm and has been for decades. You see them everywhere. At the mall, on the street, on billboards, at the train station, even on the radio (sexy voice), and it's no big deal.


When they're portrayed as taking charge of their own sexiness.


Cyberphobe wrote:

If they don't like the poster then don't look at it. Same as playing a video game, reading a magazine, or watching a movie. Nobody is forcing these selfish drama queens to look, watch, play, anything yet they act like the world is out to get them.


People forget that media has the power of influence.

Why do minorities complain that there's not enough minority representation in Hollywood? If they don't like it, then don't complain, just don't watch it, right?

Why do anime fans complain of white-washing in anime adaptations? They can just not watch it, so why complain?

Why do Russians/Arabs/Africans/Muslims complain that they're always the bad guys? Why do beautiful white Caucasians keep getting the lead roles? How did white Caucasians become the standard of beauty anyway?

It's because media has the power of influence. You may not watch it; some people may not watch it; but it'll influence millions other people, consciously and sub-consciously.

Y'know how influential media can be? In January 1 next month, a very influential book goes into public domain; changed the course of human history; influenced a whole lot of people and affected a whole lot more who didn't buy nor care for the book:

Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' goes on sale in Germany in January for first time since war

The power of portrayals


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CaRoss



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:01 am Reply with quote
I'm personally glad that they decided to pull this poster down. The expression was not that pleasant, and had a distinct look that seemed far less embarrassed and more like she was being forced into something she didn't want to do.

Now, in the long run, I am far from against fanservice or images of that sort, but this one just didn't sit right with me when I saw it. So, I totally understand why it would be pulled.

TarsTarkas wrote:
No one bats an eye for a Hollywood movie poster with women dressed with less clothing than that woman in the anime themed poster.


Actually, they are given flack for it. As a recent example, Eva Green was given a lot of flack for her Sin City 2 poster. She's a naturally busty woman who was dressed in nothing, but a transparent nightshirt on the poster and a lot of people didn't approve of that: at all.
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Redbeard 101
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:09 am Reply with quote
Let's keep the over the top ranting and antagonistic posts to a minimum please. Already had to remove a few.
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Rensie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:18 am Reply with quote
Thanks to fully removed my comment because i dare to mention random pro censorship movements and call japanese authors {Please; enough with the ad hominem attacks. Thank you. ~nobahn} . Expected no less.
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CaRoss



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:31 am Reply with quote
AnimeLordLuis wrote:
If it wasn't for the questionable expression on her face the poster might not have been taken down it would have been fine if she just had a smile on her face. Smile


I truly believe that was the issue. It all came down to the expression and what it was implying. And that implication wasn't nice at all.

A different expression could have changed the entire implications of the image and would have been a lot less controversial than it is now.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:33 am Reply with quote
A big difference between normal media and this is that this is an advertisement. You don't control who gets to see it. In "Free Europe," is there nudity, swearing, and violence and gore on public advertisement everywhere? Or do they, too, conform to accepted standards of taste and decency?

Arale Kurashiki wrote:
Also, I can understand why people on this site WOULD have a hard time realizing this, but real women don't actually look like anime characters. It's kind of weird, but true!


I think that's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Good job! (Almost as much as the comment about the Roshi avatar.)
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jirg1901



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:01 am Reply with quote
FenixFiesta wrote:
I think the bigger issue is that the look in her face makes it appear that she is about to be a victim of a rather unspeakable crime.

Megiddo wrote:
The look on her face suggests that she is uncomfortable in her current attire and would like to change to something more comfortable.

The trick is its nothing even close to either, she's just really easily flustered in certain rather innocuous situations.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:50 am Reply with quote
Rensie wrote:
Thanks to fully removed my comment because i dare to mention random pro censorship movements and call japanese authors spineless cowards. Expected no less.

Actually that's not why. It was because it fell into the clearly mentioned ranting and antagonistic part I just mentioned. If you want to present your opinion then by all means do so, but do it in a constructive manner. Posts that are simple internet rage/ranting coupled with clear antagonism and insults are not constructive and do not help foster good discussion. Several of your recent posts have skirted that line to be honest.
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SWAnimefan



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:39 am Reply with quote
My impression why the poster was removed was more of, "what does this girl, with this pose, have anything to do with sightseeing?" It's really no different than the Diver girl mascot being rejected a short time ago.

If they had Kocho in a different pose and in a tourism guide outfit, it likely would've been accepted.
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:43 am Reply with quote
The actual people from the town seem to think it's "wonderful" or don't care.

Perhaps the offended party should ask people before getting offended in their name?
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Arale Kurashiki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:06 am Reply with quote
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:18 am Reply with quote
Arale Kurashiki wrote:

So we assume the offended party are larger than those who don't care? Why?
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