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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:23 pm
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is it screwed up this visual novel and Key are forever tainted in my eyes after seeing what they're really into? Like I started out with Clannad as an anime like most people, but I went the extra mile and checked out *all* their VNs and multimedia projects after. They're so deep into hardcore lolicon hentai and adult merchandising and it's not really transparent.
"Tainted" in the sense of not being able to see any innocence in these otherwise lighthearted and thematically sound works.
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encrypted12345
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:51 pm
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cookiemanstah wrote: | is it screwed up this visual novel and Key are forever tainted in my eyes after seeing what they're really into? Like I started out with Clannad as an anime like most people, but I went the extra mile and checked out *all* their VNs and multimedia projects after. They're so deep into hardcore lolicon hentai and adult merchandising and it's not really transparent.
"Tainted" in the sense of not being able to see any innocence in these otherwise lighthearted and thematically sound works. |
Eh, by that logic, I wouldn't be able to enjoy Alice in Wonderland even though the author harbored feelings for a child. I think each seperate work by a company should be taken as its own. The fact that 18+ Kud Wafter exists doesn't negate the positives of Clannad or even of the original Little Busters.
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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:11 pm
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encrypted12345 wrote: |
cookiemanstah wrote: | is it screwed up this visual novel and Key are forever tainted in my eyes after seeing what they're really into? Like I started out with Clannad as an anime like most people, but I went the extra mile and checked out *all* their VNs and multimedia projects after. They're so deep into hardcore lolicon hentai and adult merchandising and it's not really transparent.
"Tainted" in the sense of not being able to see any innocence in these otherwise lighthearted and thematically sound works. |
Eh, by that logic, I wouldn't be able to enjoy Alice in Wonderland even though the author harbored feelings for a child. I think each seperate work by a company should be taken as its own. The fact that 18+ Kud Wafter exists doesn't negate the positives of Clannad or even of the original Little Busters. |
it's still pretty effed up you gotta admit. One look at Kud Wafter would make you think how anyone with a conscience drew and wrote that. Can never look at Kud the same way again.
Also, that thing is getting a PG13 anime soon. Imagine when someone decides to look up what it is from.
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geepee
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:05 pm
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cookiemanstah wrote: | it's still pretty effed up you gotta admit. One look at Kud Wafter would make you think how anyone with a conscience drew and wrote that. Can never look at Kud the same way again.
Also, that thing is getting a PG13 anime soon. Imagine when someone decides to look up what it is from. |
Tons of Japanese creators have done porn. The author of Azumanga Daioh and Yotsuba?he did Lolicon manga.
Madoka Magica's designer? Also drew for a 18+ VN that is getting localized(wide faces and all!).
It would be easier to point out who didn't work with porn.
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Cryten
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:41 am
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I think it tainted Air for me. I loved the air anime but finding out its graphic material really saddened me. Kanon was a little worrying since theres all that coquettish imagery for their very young character. But Clannad? No that was always designed as a PG story and it also treated its female characters with alot of respect. For that reason I feel like that work and Angle Beats are completely fine. Its okay for its author to move away from lolicon and produce some fine works.
I also agree. Yotsuba! is some of the finest wholesome material made in manga despite what the author was originally producing. But I will make it clear I do not like that the authors produced such content originally. I hope over the years Japan will be able to culturally move away from attraction to the under 16 year olds as accepted media. (As Japans age of confirmation)
However since they converted Little Busters to have erotic content I am not that keen on it.
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Catsplay
Joined: 24 Sep 2015
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:33 pm
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Cryten wrote: | I think it tainted Air for me. I loved the air anime but finding out its graphic material really saddened me. Kanon was a little worrying since theres all that coquettish imagery for their very young character. But Clannad? No that was always designed as a PG story and it also treated its female characters with alot of respect. For that reason I feel like that work and Angle Beats are completely fine. Its okay for its author to move away from lolicon and produce some fine works.
I also agree. Yotsuba! is some of the finest wholesome material made in manga despite what the author was originally producing. But I will make it clear I do not like that the authors produced such content originally. I hope over the years Japan will be able to culturally move away from attraction to the under 16 year olds as accepted media. (As Japans age of confirmation)
However since they converted Little Busters to have erotic content I am not that keen on it. |
So people that like that content are evil then despite it just being fiction? Also it's ironic you have a Shana profile picture because the light novels, manga, and even the anime adaptations to an extent did fanservice for her and she's a loli character.
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:54 pm
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So does the converted edition have the routes from EX?
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Megiddo
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:50 pm
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Yes, the Converted Edition has the Saya, Futaki, and the Sasami route. It has all the content of Little Busters EX except for the sexual scenes.
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