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PilotPayback
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i really hope they do sort this out. they were one of the earliest places where i bought that kinda stuff, back in 2020.
nowadays, though, i usually just use mangagamer, jast, or steam for most of the visual novels i played. so...um...yeah... |
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Blanchimont
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There needs to be legislation introduced to address these issues frequently popping up with these payment processors who hold close to monopoly/duopoly in their fields. Because at this point, it's just ridiculous, only pirates are the real winners here..
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JustMonika
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I get them all off Steam for my Steam Deck OLED and then patch them in Linux if it's one of those types, lol. I can no longer access Denpasoft though since I live in Texas. NekoNyan, MangaGamer and similar sites are still accessible though. Only Denpasoft is shut off from me. |
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Kougeru
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TheSeventhSense
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"I don't think people should be allowed to read these manga."
"No one's talking to you. Just process the payment, payment processor." |
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LuScr
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Just the opposite, actually. The path these payment processors are treading was blazed by leftist groups seeking to debank gun dealers, oil companies, conservative activists, etc.--so Trump (who was himself a target of this tactic) and his administration are very much opposed to it. There's actually legislation that would deal with this--the Fair Access to Banking Act--languishing in committee right now. It does not have a single Democratic cosponsor. |
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Wyvern
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I'm getting really sick of these self-righteous, religious weirdos dictating what the rest of us can see. The Right has failed in its quest to demolish free speech at the political level, so now they're using the sneaky side tactic of attempting to cut off revenue to any business that doesn't meet their imaginary "values."
And you just know that if they succeed at getting rid of porn, they won't stop there. Next they'll be cutting off payment for LGBT media or non-Christian media or anything that doesn't push their ridiculous agenda. It's so frustrating. On the other hand, a huge amount of money awaits any payment processor who takes a stand and declares themselves pro-free speech, and commits to never restricting any legal content from their services. At this point, any one processor who does this will instantly get a ton of adult businesses as loyal clients. Only question is if any of these organizations have the guts to do it. |
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TheSeventhSense
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Why has the executive order "Guaranteeing Fair Banking for All Americans" which he signed in August not been able to stop this? |
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rizuchan
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At the risk of contributing to a political slap fight… I think the fundamental problem is that *no* politician, on either side, wants to be “the porn guy”. This is especially true with anime/manga, which has a history of content that sexualizes minors, and is very misunderstood in general. Everyone is having massive knee-jerk reactions right now about anything and everything that could remotely resemble pedophilia - and understandably so - but it basically means that both the right and the left have become very anti porn in the name of “saving the children”. No politician is going to risk destroying their career over porn, and frankly, I suspect no one is ever going to push them to, since porn is such a private matter. No one is going to put a “save the porn” sign in their yard, and calling your representative to ask them to defend porn is just going to get your number blocked.
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shikushi
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This isn't true. Collective Shout is the group pressuring companies from hosting NSFW works and they are very much a right-wing, conservative, anti-LGBT group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Shout https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/collective-shout-bias-and-credibility/ |
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BadNewsBlues
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Yeah I wonder why the guy with a well documented problem of defaulting on loans, declaring bankruptcy 11 times, and who was convicted of a crime was singled out by the big bad banks.
Looking at a summary of the law that’s actually a good thing not a bad one.
Yeah why would any democrats ironic as it sounds not support such an “honest and unproblematic” law. As some reddit user explained this bill wouldn’t even fix the issue of payment processors screwing over certain companies.
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Twage
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Maybe you want to explain why this text is in Project 2025, then:
That was written by the president of the Heritage Foundation, which has been the main feeder for staff and policy in the second Trump administration. |
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Zased
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Tribalism and political grifting is why I have little faith in these movements working out in the end. We've already seen people stop caring about video games being de-platformed or removed if it's something they personally don't like and it's pretty clear the concern is only there when they feel it might affect something they care about. Only the right kind of porn or media is worth protecting for some people and the others, well, good riddance. It becomes pretty clear being against censorship is merely performative gesture for a lot of people. Also just a quick history lesson since i see people trying to pin the blame all on the "the right": the leaders behind the push to censor video games were Jack Thompson - who had previously worked with Tipper Gore (wife of then Democrat VP Al Gore) on getting the warning label for explicit music on CDs - and former Democrat VP candidate Joe Lieberman. The Hearings which led to Parental Advisory on music and the creation of the ESRB, were spearheaded by 2 Democrats and the initiative was led by Tipper Gore Clinton's VP's wife, and Hilary Clinton. The guy who led the charge against the completely milquetoast Night Trap and got it pulled off store shelves in that infamous case? Senator Joe Lieberman. Democrat. In other news the UK just recently passed an amendment to ban incest and other 'odd' porn backed by both Labour and Tories.
This also applies to storefronts. Not many storefronts want to be known as the one that has the 'rape' game or the 'school shooter' game which leads to enough pressure causes Steam, GOG, and ichi.io to pull titles even without pressure from banks or payment processors having to force their hand. You don't even need to be a big company or store anymore. We're now seeing it spill over into anime and manga with a mangaka being harassed off social media this past week over the platform of 'protecting the children' and 'stopping pedophilia'. Even if you go to to the links shikushi posted about Collective Shout you see it's all being done in the name of feminism and women's rights. |
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BadNewsBlues
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A independent. Who even when he was a Democrat wasn’t liked by the party due to his willingness to vote in favor of Republican causes.
Center right Democrat
The current day movement to censor porn and blame violent video games for mass shootings is near exclusively one being led by Conservative Republicans.
Which of course is a lie just the same as these people insisting banning and criminalizing abortions is about protecting women and unborn fetuses. |
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FishLion
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It's pretty easy to tell these groups are kind of just extremist in general. Collective Shout is being supported by NCOSE. NCOSE is a right wing organization focused on using social accountability campaigns to make social media companies pay for hosting sexual content because according to their organization all porn is bad and inherently exploitative, even when fictional. NCOSE used to be known as Morality in Media which at one point advocated for the idea that sex stores selling toys and gay sex was harmful. Clearly not a rational organization or acting in good faith mainly to stop harm. They changed their name and mission to focus on exploitation because by the 2010's nobody cared about sex toys or gay sex more generally. The thing that unites Collective Shout and an organization with a history like that is that they are extremely conservative on sex. Not capital C conservative, but as in they literally want to go to the days in society where even talking about sex was taboo, much less discussing it in media. I'm not sure how Collective Shout identifies themselves, but it is possible to call yourself a feminist and have conservative beliefs, wanting certain content to be banned from media is conservative no matter what you call yourself. You could call yourself progressive or left wing and be so in every other sense, but banning media including porn is conservative in the most literal sense of the definition (Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change. ) In fact, Collective Shout was founded by a Conservative Australian political activist. It kind of goes to show that assuming someone is left wing based on individual beliefs like feminism is a fool's errand. You can believe you are feminist and helping women but do that by being conservative, and being conservative with media laws is clearly harmful to art and women who make or sell art. Anyone trying to ban specific media for being backwards in their opinion is trying to drag us kicking and screaming into the past whatever they state their beliefs are and no matter what they say they are protecting. As mentioned, Americans Republicans are plenty happy to claim they are protecting women while they restrict access to medical services the party finds controversial, so in no way does Collective Shout claiming they protect women make them left wing in any sense of the word, you need to judge their actions on the subject which are 100% traditional and closers to the 1920's film codes than the 2020's feminism from anyone but conservatives. It does still make sense to consider the American right's history with censorship though if we are going to point out politicians as the source of problems. Notice despite those crusades by specific people that the only person here in the forums that brought up not being able to freely access porn lives in Texas, a state completely controlled by Republicans in terms of decisions making power. Also, right wingers are historically the primary funders of organizations that seek to legally limit what media can be accessed. Yes, yes, we have all seen a leftist on social media call to ban this or that, but when you look at who is actually pushing for it at a government level and funding these fights it is always the real villain of the story which is conservative donors and activists. Which is also the Republican party in this case, they would never support a bill to help make sure you can buy porn without giving their conservative financiers loopholes for porn because too many Republican states are actively blocking certain websites in the form of ID laws (which Project 2025 stated was a backdoor way to ban porn sites). These politicians have no interest in helping anyone except the industries that bring their states lots of money like crypto, guns, and private prisons, the conservative investors who pressure card processors to sanction porn as high risk still get their way. So don't buy into the hype, nothing this admin would ever do will protect porn or even sexy media more generally. These activists may claim to support women but they are reactionary and conservative to the core and those sorts of laws will not help protect women. They certainly aren't left wing unless the only standard for left wing is "claiming to protect women" in which case just about every politician regardless of party is left wing. |
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