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zfunk
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Ideally though I have to rewatch the end of episode 2, but I think Qifrey let in charge of Coco's training, I think he said something to Coco learn from your peers. Clearly a mistake in judgement in character at least in Qifrey's part. |
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rapata
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E1-2: Initial thoughts: so she is a child who lived in a family of two with her mother, who is now gone. Maybe for ever, and also due to what she did. Pretty tough situation. This show has the unfortunate timing in coming in a season just after Journal with witch which tackled something similar but in a way that feels more realistic.
Of course the focus here is different, this wants to tell what at least currently seems a straightforward fantasy story, and the setup of starting with an initial tragedy that drives the story forward is not unusual. However, I'm feeling a bit distracted and distanced now watching this. |
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smurky turkey
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The girls are supposed to be children and the show is portraying them realistically in that they make dumb mistakes and not always act in a friendly manner. Coco running after the bad witch was not smart at all while Agott is still as gentle as a brick to the face. I really liked them exploring the town and magic item store. It shows that witch society is large and with plenty of intriguing aspects to it (I wanted to see more). The way the pens and ink are made is interesting. Things going from some shopping to surviving in a labyrinth with a dragon in it is quite the surprise. |
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zfunk
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Well it just keep piling on, on people that owe Coco's an apology. First last week you have Argott, and now this week Quifrey confessed he is using Coco as bait to catch this Brimmed Caps witch. Very sketchy.
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Edjwald
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I would argue that this show is unfortunate in coming directly after S2 of Frieren as well. Kind of a double whammy. I feel like I should love this show - the animation, music, illustration, and genre are all in my zone and hold up to any comparison - but I like it. That shouldn't feel like a bad thing. I mean, I haven't considered dropping it once. Last week I gave Argott a pass as she is a kid and working through issues that we don't fully get yet, but the kid needs a bit of a slap to the face. Not ideally a physical one mind you. A wake-up event or disciplinary or intervention kind. And I do have a feeling that one is coming. |
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What annoys me more than Argott herself - and she annoys me plenty - is Quifrey's reprehensible laxness with her. She exposes Coco to danger by sending her out off on that quest and doesn't get so much as a lecture from him about it? What the hell? I'm getting uncomfortable flashbacks to Hero Academia which I dropped early on because I couldn't stand that one character who ridiculously hated on the MC. The only function of that character was to enrage us the viewers with respect to how he treated the MC and that seems to be the case with Argott. Other than that, I'm super digging the show.
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Gina Szanboti
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The show is inarguably beautiful, but I find myself on edge watching it because it's so frustrating in a way that's hard to articulate. Coco drives me nuts. She's timid as a mouse one second and impulsively adventurous the next. Creative and smart and utterly oblivious outside the intense focus of her tunnel vision. Almost simultaneously considerate and inconsiderate of others (her obliviousness plays into the latter). I'm afraid she contains way too many multitudes for me to warm up to her.
While Argott is a jerk at best, at least I understand her, if not yet why she's like that. I mean, I really felt her when she was pointing out all the things Coco "didn't mean to" do, but still did and how useless "didn't mean to" was (but Argott, not the time or place for airing your grievances). The pink one is too genki, but not to an annoying degree, and the teal one is a quiet but competent cypher. But Coco being so frustrating to me is the main roadblock to liking this as much as I'd like to. Maybe if it didn't always take half an episode or more for her to finally come up with the solution we know she'll eventually come up with to whatever problem her rashness, obliviousness and/or gullibility got her into, it wouldn't feel so much like waiting for a bus in a traffic jam when I'm late. I don't expect her to be cool, calm and collected and instantly know what to do, but maybe drag it out a little less? |
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Eilavel
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Yes, Coco tends to act/react as per the plot and arc of the moment demands. I think the story works on its imaginative world and art; its character writing isn't bad by anime standards or anything, but the rest of the show is just clearly a step up from its cast and it makes the issues stand out. |
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zfunk
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I think Coco natural personality is to be timid, and she turns on a dime to chase that witch down because she saw someone that might have answers to cure her mom. That is her weakness, her mom.
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Waid Rabby Nadaga
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I think Coco being a newcomer expains some of the issues, in so many ways she's in over her head. Likewise Argott was very rude, but TBF when she lost her temper, it was in a bad situation.
spoiler[For the situation itself, this alternate stone world is a very interesting idea design wise, plus its nice to see the world of the story get more developed] I don't generally watch Fantasy, but I really glad I watched this series, as it has a very neat world, that is well developed. |
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smurky turkey
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There are hundreds of anime with magic in them but only a few manage to make said magic actually feel magical. This week's episode did it amazingly well with the girls coming together to use magic in a creative manner. Then there was Qifrey whose magic was a lot more direct and made the dragon feel some insecurities about itself. While there are still some tensions I liked how the arguments from last week were (mostly) resolved. Add to that some amazing animation and Qifrey plus miss Brimmed Cap both being vague and I am interested in what happens next. I doubt that Qifrey will turn out to be a villain though, it is more likely that he has some beef with the Brimmed caps. |
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Edjwald
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It took me a week to catch up to my watchlist, but the episode where the cast is trying to bypass the dragon to escape from the magical labyrinth/prison/alt dimension was my favorite to date.
I still maintain that the anime's greatest strength by far is its look and the way it animates said look. An almost indecent amount of the world building (at least the sense of depth and the mood) is conveyed just through the artwork. It's like a less creepy and abstract Puella Magi Madoka in that respect. I'm glad Arsnot is starting to come around a little and that the other students are starting to develop more distinct personalities. The mentor hasn't really crystallized. Is he benevolent? Manipulative? Neglectful? Obsessive? I can see arguments for all those things. He acts almost saint-like while doing things - or not doing things he should do - which undercut that image. |
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smurky turkey
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So far the adults at the atelier seem decent. Given the episode I have a hard time imagining Qifrey as some evil mastermind. I do think that he is obsessed with the Brim Caps for some reason though. I would suggest that he might have lost his eye due to them but that feels a bit too on the nose. Newly introduced Olruggio appears to be a good guy. He might come across a bit harsh but given how he treated Coco later on he seems like a softy. It also makes sense that independent ateliers need someone to make sure nothing shady happens. Besides that I enjoyed the cozy downtime, the rain looked lovely. Agott seems likely to mess up at some point, she is too desperate to succeed. |
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rapata
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E4-5: During E4 I thought the dragon was somehow adorable, and was utterly vindicated in E5. Hopefully it wasn't badly hurt in the kerfuffle, and can enjoy a nice long nap on its new bed.
I suspect this won't be the last visit from the Brimmed Hats, even though Quifrey will probably be more on his guard the next time, as he seemed pretty angry at the end. Personal vendetta? I wonder what they gave her this time, and why are they so fixated with her. Doesn't seem to be the case that they gave her the wand just randomly. |
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zfunk
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So why didn't Argott ask those people to turn around and not look, explain the situation, it is not that hard, they seemed like nice trusty worthy people to me.
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