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Dust2
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Will most new anime be licensed for streaming in the near future?
Right now, about 30-40% of new anime are licensed for streaming on crunchyroll, hulu, veoh. Titles like Full Metal Alchemist, Shangri-La, Saki, Ristorante Paradiso, Hayate no Gotuku 2, Natsu no Arashi, Chi's Sweet Home. In addition, on-going anime like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Gintama, Shugo Chara etc...as well as finished series like Gundam 00, Code Geass etc... I'm surprised the anime studio that owned Cross Game doesn't do this. It's a good anime. However, its chance of a DVD license in North America is almost nonexistent. Why not stream license it to CR and earn some ad and subscription revenue. Look at MAJOR (another good and long baseball anime series). No DVD license yet and not likely to. Even if an anime have a good chance at a DVD license, why not stream license it first. When it's picked up for DVD license, you can stop the streaming. Using this spring 2009 line-up, imagine crunchyroll (or hulu) adding Cross Game, K-On!, Eden of the East, Sengoku Basara, Basquash, 07-Ghost, Tears to Tiara, Asura Cryin' to its simulcast line-up. Do you think there will be more (or much more) new anime to be stream licensed in the near future? 1 year ago, can you even name 3 anime that were legally stream? Today, there are many. One year from now, will there be much more? [EDIT: Changed up your title so that it'd actually fit in the title bar. -TK] |
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DarkGyraen
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Well, I would say it's likely that we'll continue to see an increase in simul-cast streaming of Anime, as it's one of the best ways to combat fan-subs and ilegal downloads. The argument that people don't want to wait for their anime is no longer relevent when shows are simul-cast like this, so I can see a further increase.
On the flip-side of that though, this is all new territory for the companies involved, and Funimation, despite having the best intentions, has done a fair bit of damage to the concept by having so many shows leaked, and in some cases before they aired in Japan. That kind of thing is going to make alot of the Japanese companies who are largely relying upon profits from the shows airing in Japan to have some serious second doubts about the process. What I would personally bet on is that in the next few seasons, we'll continue to see an increase in the number of shows being simul-cast, but the point when all new anime is simul-cast is still a long way off I'd think. |
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Dust2
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I don't think it'll be a long way off. It could be here within a year or two for most new anime. Current new anime legally stream: 1. Full Metal Alchemist 2. Shangri-La 3 .Saki 4. Ristorante Paradiso 5. Hayate no Gotuku 2 6. Natsu no Arashi 7. Chi's Sweet Home On-going series currently legal stream: 1. Naruto 2. Bleach 3. One Piece 4. Gintama 5. Shugo Chara 6. Reborn! Current new anime not legally stream (but available through fansubs) 1. Cross Game 2. K-On! 3. Eden of the East 4. Sengoku Basara 5. Basquash 6. 07-Ghost 7. Tears to Tiara 8. Asura Cryin' 9. Hatsukoi Limited Remember legal streaming anime only really get going 6 months ago with crunchyroll going legal and legit. If the anime listed in bold above are legally stream through crunchyroll or hulu, veoh, that's most anime right now. |
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PetrifiedJello
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I like your optimism, but I have to agree it's not going to be that easy. The red tape just to get a series into this country is so asinine, it'll be the reason streaming will take years to get here. You have to remember the companies pushing the episodes want big bucks for it, and online web revenues are so paltry, there's no way streaming can be lucrative for them. In addition, streaming has only just become an option because of fan sub sites proving there is demand for online viewership. Given this is a forced decision by distributors, they're looking at it as "even some revenue is better than none." Personally, I believe future simulcasts will be turned into pay-per-view events, simply because a web ad just isn't going to be enough to pay for all the new anime released in this manner. And now that Japan has changed its laws regarding downloading, this only adds further insult to injury. Just another reason for distributors not to simulcast now that they have legal "protection". Such a shame. |
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Kimiko_0
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I hope that doesn't happen. DVDs I can import, but streaming video is always blocked for people outside the USA or N-America.
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walw6pK4Alo
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I think licensing for streaming is nice and all, but it usually seems to only be for the North American clientèle, thus leaving the rest of the world SOL as far as legal means. Even those across the pond seem to never get much from this, yet fansubs are global and wide open. All of the legal restrictions hold things back far too much, even with stuff like the DVD regions, it can be too annoying to bother with.
My problem with streaming now is that the quality isn't up to par with the TV rips, in a nice and nearly flawless h.264 encode. Yeah I know I shouldn't have to need HD to enjoy my anime, but why the hell not if it comes in that form? FUNi's streams and CR's just aren't that good yet in quality for me. I hope they can improve it to the point of YouTube's HD, then it'd be pretty nice to watch some stuff streamed. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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I still and will never trust Crunchyroll ever again. They had a oppportunity from the get go to provide legal streams, but didn't and then tried to deny that they ever had illegal fansubs. If I am going to watch licensed anime, it will either be either through dvd or legally from the company's website or through their youtube chanel. |
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Dust2
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Why do you hate Crunchyroll so much? Do you hate fansubs too with the same passion? Crunchyroll started about 2 years ago, do you think they could get legal streams 2 years ago? Who would give them the anime? At least Crunchyroll changed their way and now becoming legit and legal. |
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Zalis116
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Tower of Druaga: The Aegis of Uruk Blassreiter Strike Witches (okay, this was almost a year ago) |
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marie-antoinette
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I don't think anyone is saying that they want streaming instead of DVDs (or at least I hope not). But as the initial way to see a series with subtitles, I do hope it continues to expand (even if I do admit preferring downloads overall because they tend to run easier on my computer but I'll take what I can get). |
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Dust2
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Exactly. DVDs will still be there. Basically, legal streaming will compete against fansubs. Just think of it as fansubs but legal and in stream format instead of downloading format. |
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Dust2
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[This post is both repetitive and a second post by the same person in a row, as well as the exact same thing posted in another thread. Do not do two consecutive posts in any thread or just copy and paste from one thread to another, Dust2. - Key]
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ShinobiX
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-Dust2
Are you sure about crunchyroll and veoh because I know they illegally stream a heck of a lot of other animes too. A heck of a lot. Not to mention you can download as many streams as you want from those websites by paying a small fee. Sometimes it’s free. Morons lol other devious ways. Not to mention crunchyroll is done by fans/fan subbers not by professionals like youtube people. I don't know if your facts are straight, but every time some downloads a fan sub from crunchyroll they are stealing money away from the anime producers. Oh and on veoh you find a lot more fansubs then licensed streams. Plus I think for crunchroll, it will be hard to seperate the licensed streams from the illegal ones because they have way too many fan subs. Hard to tell which is the legit one and which isn't. For the record nearly all bleach and naruto videos are fan subs. Nevermind just ignore my post. Too lazy to delete it. It's in bold so people don't respond. Feel free to though anyway. |
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Dust2
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Find me an illegal fansub on crunchyroll and we'll talk. |
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ShinobiX
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Duh I'm wrong read bold. Anyway veoh got fansubs. Crunchyroll changed. Not what it used to be. Don't use those websites anyway. Now it's called ignoring like I stated earlier.
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