Forum - View topicMoe moe.....*kyun*
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DragonsRevenge
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Does that mean anything in particular, or is that something they used in K-On to show how self-aware they are that it's moe show?
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Furudanuki
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In this context "kyun" refers to a strong emotion which causes a sudden tightening in the chest. Sort of a sound effect of your heart clenching and/or skipping a beat.
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abunai
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Actually, it's kyuun, but you often hear it shortened to kyun or kyu' in everyday usage.
Any language has a number of mimetic words and phrases, indicating events or emotions -- in English, these are words like "pop" or "wow" or "zap" or "bang". Japanese has far more of these than English, and in Japanese, they can occur in formal as well as informal language. Many of them are onomatopoietic -- that is, the word mimics a sound (like "bang" in English or zuzun , "thundering", in Japanese). Onomatopoietic words are called giongo. Others, such as guzu guzu ("dawdling"), are descriptive of states, usually emotional, and are not onomatopoietic. These are called gitaigo. If you run into a specific Japanese mimetic term and want to look it up, there's a very useful resource at http://www.nihongoresources.com/dictionaries/onomatopoeia.html. - abunai Cats go nyan, dogs go wan and pigs go buhi -- everybody knows that. |
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Kimiko_0
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Does moe mean 'cute' nowadays? It used to mean something more than that, but I see it used in reviews and on the forum to describe people who are just 'cute', and not particularly moe in the traditional sense. |
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DragonsRevenge
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Abunai thanks a lot for your input, I'll bookmark that site.
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Kimiko_0
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Yes, I'm aware of the meaning of moe. What I was trying to say is that the term seems to have been diluted from its original meaning to a synonym of kawaii/'cute', even among ANN reviewers.
Thanks for the link btw, Abunai. I wish regular dictionaries included these words. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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I think a large part of the problem with that is that it's such a subjective definition. Many moe characters have traits that overlap, and so when enough of these are present, people might describe a character as moe even though they don't personally experience such a feeling from the character. |
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PetrifiedJello
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I didn't. 
Well, I did know cats went "nya". 1 out of 3 isn't bad, right? RIGHT??!! |
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Kimiko_0
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Grunties also go buhi btw:
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Ktimene's Lover
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It's also probably just to add the cuteness overload moe throws at us,
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DuskyPredator
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What was it that Konata said, something along the lines of "Only the most hardcore otaku know what moe means".
Also I guess as far as I knew from K-ON was that Yui made the word up, she can also have a weired sense of cuteness. |
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Reaper gI
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It's a trope from K-on!
In refernce to Yui imagining Mio dressed in maid unifrom. The kyun being Yui's reaction, on acount of being overwelmed, by how moe this makes Mio (who is already moe in general) |
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DragonsRevenge
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Yep. You are correct. |
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abunai
Old Regular
Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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Nope. A trope is a regular narrative cliché of one form or another. However, a word, in itself, hardly constitutes a trope -- especially since, as previously noted, kyuun is as much a regular word in Japanese as "bang" is in English. It's not a made-up word, specially concocted to suit the situation. I'm a bit concerned with the fact that the TV Tropes site seems to have introduced everybody to the word "trope" without ever making them actually learn what it means. Ah, how I long for the good old days, when only we dusty academic moles knew such arcane terminology, and the great unwashed masses had no inkling they existed... - abunai |
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DragonsRevenge
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Sorry. My bad. |
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