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SecretAgent94
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I was browsing Google Images for a DBZ pics for a PS project when I came across this. and this.
I was thinking if DBZ continued we would likely see Goku return and go Super Saiyan 5 and 6 against an even more powerful enemy and so on ; so I was thinking why don't they have original anime writers make a Prequel series? Those pictures had me thinking...What if there was a prequel series chronicling the Saiyans before and during Frieza's rule? It can cover Kid Vegeta's adventures as well as Bardock and other Saiyans. Definitely, it should introduce a new cast of characters. There is so much open space to explore creatively. I was thinking as well; how amazing would it be if like in the first link, if Vegeta met Baby Goku and they had adventures traveling around or going on some kind of journey to different planets and such. And here's the twist: Goku is the angry and rebellious one and Vegeta is more kind and gentle. They can be good companions and it would have some of that classic DB feel as well as some DBZ violence. In the end, maybe Vegeta hits his head and lost some the memories of what had happened as well as a personality shift, just the way Goku will later hit his head on Earth. It would have a kind of irony to it, wouldn't you say? And it would be cool; if they mentioned the Legend of the Super Saiyan that would overthrow Frieza. Maybe there actually was a rumored Super Saiyan in the prequel. Maybe Vegeta nearly turns Super Saiyan in a scene himself bt is interrupted.(Remember if Vegeta loses his memory and personality later on, and Goku is just a baby; plenty could have went on!). Of course; canon would have to be stretched and the more conservative fans would frown at it. Since Goku was apparently sent to Earth as a Newborn, you could say that he crashed somewhere first and the journey I mentioned w/ Vegeta is the journey to return Goku on his path Earth. What do you guys think? Dumb? Do you have any idea for a DB continuation yourself? DBZ Kai is more or less the same thing; and there is so much room to explore in the DBZ universe; I believe instead of just remastering the same exact thing every year in a new edition. Last edited by SecretAgent94 on Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ikillchicken
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Uh...Dragonball Z has a prequel. It's called Dragonball. (Well, I guess if you want to get technical, Z is a sequel rather than DB being a prequel since DB came first). Are you not familiar with it?
I guess one could do a prequel about Vegeta or other character not introduced until DBZ but it wouldn't fit with the canon to do anything with Goku as he came to earth as a baby. In any case though I have to say that the whole amnesia thing is painfully cliche and if you're going to completely switch the character's personalities then why bother making them the same characters at all? I don't really see the point. |
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SecretAgent94
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Oh yes I am very familiar with it, in fact. I changed the title to say a "Dragonball prequel" realizing my mistake.
Well there had to me some gap of time between Goku being born and him being sent to Earth. Anyway like I said, canon could be stretched in favor of a compelling story.
Goku's personality changed from a fall or injury. I thought it would be really ironic if the same happened with Vegeta as a child; only on the opposite side. I suppose it could be cliche' but not if you do it right. Anyway, I am just throwing some ideas around lol. I just think the whole Saiyan planet has so much room for a prequel; it's like crying out for one . If not the Saiyans; it could also be about a Young Master Roshi, Kami's adventures, Gohan, etc...But I think a Saiyan story would be more compelling. |
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diomedes21
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i dont see why a prequel has to involve goku and vegeta so much. what is wrong with doing something with goku's father
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SecretAgent94
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That's true; I mentioned in the OP that Bardock's story would be nice to watch as well (pre-Father of Goku movie). I suppose it would be cool if it covered Bardock's childhood as well. Remember; a show can have many different little plots and stories happening. Perhaps my ideas are too risky although. :-/ it would likely upset like 99% of the hardcore DBZ fans if that whole Kid Vegeta and Baby Goku adventures thing actually happened. |
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Ichigo77
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Well considering that Goku was sent to earth not even a day after he was born it would be pretty hard to have both Goku and Vegeta in a prequel even if you tried to stretch the canon. I've always wanted to see more of Bardock and the saiyans in general while working for Frieza. I wouldn't even mind going back further to their savage days before they were recruited by Frieza.
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SecretAgent94
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Really? Hm, I need to watch the Bardock movie again then. Were the events of Bardock and such covered in the manga? |
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SecretAgent94
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Like I thought; I guess my idea is a little over-the-top.
Nonetheless, I think most people would like some sort of Saiyan-related story. If not with some Z Characters like Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta, Bardock, then like someone else mentioned something with the Saiyans story pre-Frieza. It's just kind of sad to see the one of the most popular anime ever, become dated and irrelevant when there is so much more room to explore. We can only watch Goku defeat Frieza and Gohan defeat Cell so many times. |
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EireformContinent
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Some scenes from movie were shown as flashback in manga. Since we aren't on daizex we can assume whole story is canon 
The idea of prequel isn't bad, in fact it's pretty popular, but as it was said- not next Goku&Vegeta. For me the perfect one would focus just on our beloved Prince. Unfortunately background of the characters was never the strong point of DBZ, so my dream prequel would fix it and show society, royal family of Vegetasei. It would have a great potential if the procures had enough courage to show society completely different from our norms. Second tread would be Frieza and his army- it's structure, the portraits of his soldiers, reasons they joined him, conspiracy, hierarchy, rules... man I must go pull myself together and finish my ff
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SecretAgent94
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Yes but doesn't the picture I linked inspire you at all though? Maybe if it were just for an arc; and the main story focuses more on Vegeta. Just imagine a Kid Vegeta and Baby Goku on a journey. Man, it would be so amazing. It would open so many new possibilities but the challenge would be closing every loose end so that things don't contradict the story. But yeah, all that you mentioned about the conspiracies, hierarchies, and events that may have happened under Frieza's rule would be so awesome as well as some time covering the Saiyans pre-Frieza. Military-type aspects are good; but I would like a new cast of Saiyan characters with their own backstories; and an emotionally driven story. Do you think it would be too much if there was some kind of Super Saiyan Character? Maybe for a few seconds or something and he dies somehow? A prequel would be a perfect time to bring back credibility to the Super Saiyan again. EDIT: I just thought of something. Traditionally the Saiyans have been portrayed as relatively 1-Dimensional characters who just kill. But maybe that was the norm of the society; maybe there were groups and organizations of Saiyans who were protesting the violence; kind of like the way in the US we have seen protests against/for wars, gay marriage, etc... |
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penguintruth
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Forget about the Saiyans. There's enough Saiyan jerking off in DB.
I'd like some kind of background on Freeza, instead. Where he comes from, what his race is, stuff about his father King Cold, something about his mother. But nothing that makes Freeza too sympathetic. I don't want to find out he's bad because he was abused as a child. He's just a rotten apple. I'm just interested in Freeza's history. Some kind of side story OVA or TV special would work. |
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Ichigo77
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I've always wanted to know that too. Plus he is said to be the strongest in the Universe so does that mean his entire family is as strong? Has his family line as been almost invincible beings? And like you said why is he so evil. Also is what Frieza is a stand race or not? I mean is there a race of beings that look like that or did King Colds parents consist of two different races? You would think that if there was a family of beings so powerful it would be a family empire. With Cell and Buu its easy because they were made, but with Frieza he was born. Also speaking of Bardock, considering that Goku is so similar to Superman, don't you think it would have been kind of cool if Goku had some way to recieve Bardocks advice like how Superman can talk to the memory of Jor-El at the fortress? |
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penguintruth
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Uh... no.
That wouldn't be very helpful, anyway, as Bardock was a mass murderer like every other Saiyan, so what's he going to say? "Oh hey, Kakkarot. I hope you slaughtered millions of people today!" "What the hell, dad?" |
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EireformContinent
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The Net is really that small... I use it as an avatar on another forum:) But no, I'm not canon Nazi, but changing canon in the case where it isn't necessarily needs a huge talent and lots of work to make convincing story. You don't just write on blank paper but had to "erase" first story at all.
No, no SSJ, give Caesar what belongs to him, and let legend stay a legend. In many ff we can have an impression that SSJ was born every week.
That's the trap I want to avoid- comparing Sayians to our society with all our culture and standards. Projecting background of new race you have to say that their system is not yours. You must imagine beings raised in completely different standards and think what would fit them. One writer I appreciate said that characters written badly can say a lot about author, but those written good can say just about themselves. That's not just a mistake of ff writers. Lots of authors can't leave their standards that simply goes to a cliché like
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SecretAgent94
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I strongly disagree with this point. Traditionally, the Saiyans have always been portrayed as 2-Dimensional fighters. I think a prequel would be a good opportunity to make them feel more....human and I don't think there is anything wrong with that as it would provide viewers much more emotional investment. I think the Saiyans should be portrayed as a society with parallels to ours in some ways. Frieza on the other hand; I don't think anything can be done with his without resorting to the "he was abused as a child" thing. If there was something deeper in his mentality, it would have been revealed during the Frieza Saga. The show has already established Frieza as a pretty flat bad-guy 
I agree with you that the Super Saiyan should be a Legend or myth. It should be respect in contrasted to the term was raped gradually over the course of the series to mean nothing anymore. However it would cause a lot of fan interest if in a prequel, it simply ever so subtly, hinted at the possibility of the myth being true. Just dropped hints here and there; maybe a character who swears he witnessed it. Maybe a brief 2 second clip of Golden-Aura. I think that can be pulled off and still preserving the Legendary status of the SSJ although it would be risky. If done right, it would be amazing. |
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