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partysmores
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Okay, so this has been on my mind ever since I made a post in the THEM Anime forums about Buttobi!! CPU being in the adult section.
Where does regular anime end and hentai begin? Rin: Daughters of Mnonysense (probably spelt that wrong) is released by FUNimation, a pretty big anime company, and yet has several explicit sex scenes --- the same kinds of scenes which got Buttobi!! CPU an adult label and probably why Ebichu never came over to North America. What really confuses me is how stuff like Virgin Night and End of Summer are considered adult titles, and yet stuff like Qwaser of Stigmata and Queen's Blade are considered normal, stocked-in-major-retailers, Netflix-friendly titles. So, I'm asking you, ANN; what do you think? |
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Kruszer
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If you actualy see genitalia during sex, then you're watching porn. Otherwise, you're just watching an anime that has nudity or softcore sex.
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DuskyPredator
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Well aparently the term "hentai" used to refer to explicet anime, is itself only used by English audience, while the Japanese use the term 18-kin (18-prohibited). Although under part of Hellsing Ultimate might fit since had sine R out here, but I am not really familiar with Japanese ratings. I guess it must be more to do with the unoficial term of ero anime.
Although I think there is a destinction, I would like to see if there is a destinction between hentai and ecchi anime, I don't know if there are any hentai on this sites encyclpedia. But recently I watched an extremely erotic anime that had a lot of explicet sex sxenes, although it never showed genetalia so I think that seperated it into only being ecchi. There can be bouncing breasts, and one character ramming into another, but as long as you don't see the junk, you can accept that you are not technically watching hentai. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Visible genitals. That's my line of differentiation, and it seems to be how things are seperated out on Japanese stores like getchu. Even the heavily luried Kagaku na Yatsura isn't included with a typical ero anime. But even then, you have the Umetsu "hentai" which feature relatively little genitalia to story, and it can be entirely cut out of Mezzo Forte without missing anything. Or you can get oddities like Violence Jack or Butt Attack Girl where mosaics were added in though I don't believe there's anything underneath. Like you stated, Buttobi CPU, Dragon Knight 4, AkiSora, and several other anime may have on-screen sex, but it's technically softcore, the equivalent of stuff you'd see on Showtime or Skinemax, but with some semblance of actual stories and characterizations.
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Vaisaga
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Yes, the line is visible genitals. Which must be mosiaced by Japanese law, BTW.
Stuff like Aki Sora or Berserk, which feature plenty of sex scenes but no genitals, are targeted towards adults and appear in magazines also targeted towards them, but there is nothing preventing anyone under 18 from also buying those magazines. Except the Tokyo Youth Ordinance, I guess. |
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jsc315
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Not true at all. The original Dragonball had shown genitals and not even close to porn in any way or targeted to adults. Also older anime from the 80s and early 90s often show boobs or brief nudity as if it were a normal thing and is in no way pornographic. |
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Vaisaga
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You can't compare a child's penis to that of a full grown adult's. Typically the former is seen as "cute" and the latter is seen as "obscene."
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Chiibi
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I'm glad someone made this topic because I'd been wondering the same thing for several years.
........so....showing genitalia is the distinction? I figured as much....:/ I had assumed OVAs like Wicked City and Doomed Megalopolis WERE hentai...but I guess...they aren't? o_o One would barely know it.
Nope.
Japan doesn't think nude kids is a big deal...I think because of all the public bath houses. Kids see other kids naked all the time so society doesn't bat an eye when Baby Trunks is pantsless or when Crayon Shin-chan does his "elephant dance" for the kiddies to see.
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Cam0
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Many new animes also show uncovered breasts, although they are usually censored for TV broadcasts. |
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dtm42
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Some shows have partially uncensored T.V. broadcasts, especially on subscription stations like AT-X. I remember hearing that Freezing showed nipples during its broadcast run, meaning fans didn't have to wait until the home video release to get their fanservice fix. |
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Key
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Boobs aren't genitals, and showing them will definitely not, on its own, classify something as hentai.
Likewise, showing genitals does not necessarily earn a title a hentai label (look at Apocalypse Zero, for instance), nor does showing sex scenes. To be truly considered hentai, genitals must be shown being used in sex acts. That's how movies like Wicked City and Ninja Scroll dodge the hentai label even though they clearly show characters having sex. |
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Ignatz
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What about Kite?
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walw6pK4Alo
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It's on the cusp. It definitely shows visible genitals during sex acts, but the aim of the work isn't to entice or titillate. I mentioned Umetsu and Mezzo Forte in my earlier post, saying how the erotic aspects of Mezzo can be cut with no consequences on story, but it may be a little harder in Kite. I believe the sex acts belong in the story to completely demonstrate to the viewer how one character controls and manipulates another, but there was no reason (beyond acquiring funding to produce the OVA in the first place) that it needed to graphically show the genitals interacting. I'm not sure how you'd edit correctly to remove the genitals but retain the sex and creepy atmosphere of the scenes without removing them entirely, like the edited version does. |
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Key
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Kite in uncut form is a hentai title. In edited form it's not. Same for Mezzo Forte. Honestly, I don't think the motive behind including the content matters, and I would dispute that there weren't clear prurient reasons for the sex scenes in the former. (After all, I've heard that they weren't originally even in the production and that Umetsu was more or less ordered to put them in.) In MF, by comparison, they're clearly gratuitous.
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Kruszer
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Actually very true you're just misreading. Note the bold text in my post above, which should clarify. Dragonball's nudity has nothing to do with sexual intercourse, thus it's not applicable to what I was talking about specifically.. You're trying to argue a different issue from what I said. Although, I know what you're saying there and I agree that not all nudity is porn. |
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