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Aoi_Sakaraba



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Didn't know if anyone would see spoilers just having me talk about it so I put spoiler brackets over the whole thing.

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anyone else think the ending to the anime blue drop was the absolute worse they have ever seen? The whole show was very slow and did very little introduction to all of the characters. Then in the last episode everything ended really quick, and in the fast forward you never even got to see the other high schoolers. what happen to them?]


Did the Manga end it like this, or did they try to cram a show that should have been 24 episodes into 13 episodes?
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Don't need spoiler tags for most of what you said.

I entirely disagree that the end was rushed or in any way horrible; the series was very deliberately paced from the beginning, and the final episode felt no different. What needed to happen, happened. spoiler[Not seeing the other girls grown up after the time jump is to be expected; they were just supporting players anyway, and there would be no reasonable way to fit them in.]

And for the record, the anime is a prequel to the two manga series rather than an adaptation; the manga take place about a thousand years later and cover story elements that are utterly different from what the anime deals with. (Well, except for the yuri content.) In fact, IIRC the anime series ran concurrently with the second manga series.
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ZakuAce



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:31 pm Reply with quote
I thought the ending was entirely appropriate. Actually, thank you for reminding me of this show, because I did enjoy it and need to watch it again Smile
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:54 pm Reply with quote
This was one of my favorite hidden gems and the only thing horrible was the fact Sentai released it with a dub and didn't bother with an upgrade program.

I enjoyed the ending and my first viewing actually had me forgetting how the series started. It wasn't until the second viewing I said "Hey! I remember her!"

*puts on re-watch list.

It's been a while for this one. I also remember enjoying the character designs as Mari was rather striking for being rather plain.
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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:13 pm Reply with quote
Aoi_Sakaraba wrote:
anyone else think the ending to the anime blue drop was the absolute worse they have ever seen?

Not. In. The. Least.
This show could have easily gone down the cop-out road, but it was careful not to. Like others have already said, the ending was appropriate and not rushed at all. spoiler[All of the machinations behind the world-wide invasion were being set into play slowly throughout the series in the background. Also, the war wasn't ended with Hagino's final actions, it went on for decades,] we simply weren't shown that. And that's fine since this anime was really following the story of Hagino and Mari, not the invasion of Earth.
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One-Eye



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:16 pm Reply with quote
Nope. It felt perfectly fine to me when I saw it, been awhile tho. It was a pretty low key type a show. My only complaint was I would have liked to seen more of the play that was kind of interesting. But aside from that I thought it was a pretty good show.
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Rukiia



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:53 pm Reply with quote
After reading everyone's comments about the show, I am now bumping it up on my "To Watch" list after I finish Nabari no Ou. One negative comment and 5 positive responses makes me want to watch this series next. Very Happy
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:25 pm Reply with quote
While I didn't hate the ending, I was extremely underwhelmed by it. Then again yuri series are not my favorite thing to watch either and they all seem to end like that.

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Echo_City



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:28 pm Reply with quote
I am astounded that the "Internet" and I actually agree on something as I also thought the Blue Drop ending was fitting.
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My only complaint was I would have liked to seen more of the play that was kind of interesting.
I agree. Is it a staple for Yuri shows to have a school play, as I remember Strawberry Panic having one. That show taught me pretty much all I know about Carmen.

My biggest fear of the show was that the villains would spontaneously abandon their cause because they were beaten by "good", ala Johnny from Karate Kid, and then use bogus reasons to justify it. Many an anime is made off of that horrible cliche (Kenichi), but thankfully Blue Drop was not one of them.

I bought the show for the dub, was deterred by corny giant cannons and aliens using WW2 battleships as spacecraft (and the rather underexplained teleport), but stuck around for the dub. I'm glad I did, as this is one of the few Sentai titles that I bought for reasons besides being a huge ADV fan. It stands on its own merits, it transcended its flaws.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:01 am Reply with quote
I guess my taste are totally different than most people in the forums I guess Sad


Although im glad it has a 6.7 in the ratings. im surprised its not less thana 6. but than again its the users in the forums possibly giving its 9s and 10s that are bringing it up.

For my 189th anime that I plan on watching from start to end, I think I might pick something more well known like read or die oav/series or ef a tale of melodies.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:20 am Reply with quote
Well, I just marathoned the series last night. I was left feeling that the series could have been somewhat better than it was, but mostly I hate shows with a downer ending, and I would definitely say that Blue Drop had that sort of ending.

The good part of the show was the two main characters and their interactions with one another. The story was... okay, but the ending and the motivation of the Senior Captain didn't make a lot of sense to me. I really don't get why the events of the last episode took place the way they did.

As it is, I'm stuck between wanting to give this a rating of either Decent or Good, and I'm leaning towards Decent.

This could have been so much better if the sci-fi aspects didn't seem so arbitrary and aimed solely at providing a means for emotional manipulation. That's how I feel about it, anyway.
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:32 pm Reply with quote
I want to weigh in on this, but it'd be at best pointless and at worst deceitful, because I gave up on the series about halfway through. Although Mari does begin growing into a character who isn't an insufferable brat rather quickly, I just couldn't get invested enough in her or any of the other characters to care about where the series was going.
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Anymouse



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:29 pm Reply with quote
It is a tragic ending, and it is fast, bu there wasn't much room for a longer ending with only 12 episodes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:09 pm Reply with quote
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This could have been so much better if the sci-fi aspects didn't seem so arbitrary and aimed solely at providing a means for emotional manipulation.
The "sci-fi aspects" drove the plot along, I'll agree. However I cannot agree that they're only there for your reasons. Without these aspects, the show is akin to more "typical" yuri fare like Strawberry Panic, a show which achieved "emotional manipulation" without "sci-fi aspects", just as Blue Drop would do were it stripped of those aspects. In other words, the love story didn't need the "Teleporting World War 2 Battleship/Aircraft Carrier/Submarine hybrid packing a "steampunk" like ice-cannon" to proceed.

Out of curiosity, did you guys watch it dubbed or subbed? Like Canaan, this is a show that I couldn't tolerate in sub, but enjoyed in dub, so I'm curious.
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[T]he motivation of the Senior Captain didn't make a lot of sense to me. I really don't get why the events of the last episode took place the way they did.
Reading that, I'm going to assume that you watched it in sub form, and that you're talking about the commander of the invasion fleet. The show, at least I felt, pretty well explained why she wanted to spoiler[commit fratricide/sororicide as well as genocide]. I question why spoiler[Monica Rial didn't bail out after setting up her Picard Maneuver], but that would have led to a cutsey ending, one which the anti-cliche story of the vindictive commander (Azanael) set a precedent against.
Dorcas_Aurelia wrote:
Although Mari does begin growing into a character who isn't an insufferable brat rather quickly, I just couldn't get invested enough in her or any of the other characters to care about where the series was going.
That was my problem...when I watched the show in Japanese.
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I hate shows with a downer ending
Ouch, you're missing out on some great shows then. No Texhnolyze or Ergo Proxy for you then, just to name the first 2 that come to mind. Crying or Very sad Personally I find the 100% "happy" endings to be tedious. I'd rather a Texhnolyze-esque ending, which is quite tragic, though I can't watch many of them in succession. I'd prefer an ending which has elation, but also loss & sacrifice to get there. Like Speed Grapher, or Solty Rei, or Blue Drop. If Texhnolyze is a "downer" ending, which is a statement nigh impossible to honestly dispute, then Blue Drop is not as its moments of tragedy weren't comparable.
Aoi_Sakaraba wrote:
I guess my taste are totally different than most people in the forums I guess
Don't worry, if you didn't like Blue Drop, then you agree with most of the forum, if not the anime community as a whole. Out of those few in the community who actually know what Blue Drop is, I've found even fewer who actually liked it. I'd be one of them, and I'm still surprised that there are others on ANN.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:20 pm Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity, did you guys watch it dubbed or subbed? Like Canaan, this is a show that I couldn't tolerate in sub, but enjoyed in dub, so I'm curious.


I watched it fansubbed, years ago, when it first came out and long before it was licensed. I gave it a "Decent" for being interesting enough, but otherwise having no rewatchability, value, pacing isues, and the fore mentioned convoluted ending.
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