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dxx
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Many years ago, i found an article on Internet about Sakura CC, where they critcized this anime because of its high implicit sexual content.
Maybe, some of you haven't noticed about this, but actually, the sexuality is one of the main themes of CCS. Is this supposed to be wrong? No, but the problem is the way they show this content and by whom is it seen. The original article was in Spanish, so I will review it and translate it. Review: The story is about a little girl named Sakura Kinomoto that discovers a book in her library. When she opened it, some mysterious cards disparse around the world... and if she does not collect them soon, something terrible will happen! If this seems to you the most innocent anime of the world, you are wrong! CCS as well as other Clamp anime, have "subliminal messages". In the first season, we have the case of Shaoran Li, a 10 year old boy who fell in love with an older boy named Yukito Tsukishiro of 16 years old. An homosexual couple in anime? Thi isn't something new, but... a kid with a teenager? Do you really think a 10 year old boy who likes other boys is normal?... I don't think so. Then, in the second season, Shaoran without any reasons stops loving Yukito and fall in love with Sakura. What kind of mental disturbance must have a boy for this to happen? But wait, there is more, yes! Tomoyo, another homosexual child, who loves her best friend Sakura. Maybe just one homo-relation could be used for comedy, but in CCS there are three homosexual relationships. The last one is Touya (brother of Sakura) and Yukito. Here, both are 16, so there is no big deal. We also can find other aspects where the sexuality is present. The theater presentations like the one of the image, have some important details. Like for example... why is Tomoyo angry? Is it because Shaoran and Sakura are going to kiss? And also, why is Shaoran the princess and Sakura the knigth... of course this is part of the anime comedy... but think just for a second... besides it is funny, what can be interpreted in the image, of course, a sexual confusion. 
And to conclude, most of the viewers of CCS are little girls of 10 to 14 years old. Are they big enought to deal with so much sexual content? Boys liking boys, girls liking girls, boys dressed like girls and viceversa. Is it ok to let them think that one day you can like a boy and the next day you can like a girl if you want like Shaoran Li did? Here is the original article for those who know to speak Spanish: http://www-etsi2.ugr.es/alumnos/shin/sakura.htm Sakura should be for teenagers of 15 or older... at least 14 years old  Sorry, the image did not appeared. Here you can find it:
http://members.fortunecity.com/gowca/liysakura1.htm 
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Drowning_Wolf
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Ah, man I remenber when I was in primaray school (9 or 10 years old) Sakura Card Captor was one of my favourite show, and thinking about it, I do remember being a bit confused by the relationship between certain characters.
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Ohoni
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It's a show intended for Japanese kids. This si not to be confused with Stupid American Kids, or "SAK"s, who cannot be exposed to violence or sexuality.
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omar235
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When I saw it I didn't think anything of the content...they say that the relationships in it make it not for kids. My mom didn't let my sister watch it cause she didn't like what one of her friends told her about it, so I told her to sit down and watch it and she realized it wasn't a gay fest or anything like her friend made it out to be. Most of the reason why my moms friend didn't want her kids to watch it cause she thought it would warp her kids minds, who were 8 and 10 at the time...I think the only way someone ends up gay is if they are born that way (not counting bad experiences as a child) so what they watch is not going to change them as long as they are told by there parents its wrong.
I wouldn't say we can't...it just depends on what kind of parents you have.
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dxx
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Ohoni, I know sexuality in Japan is very different from the perception tht we have here in america... like for example the Kamasutra, here in America is a sexual book with several position to have sex, but what the Kamasutra actually is, is a book to reach a "spiritual state" with the partner. My thread can be interpretated in two ways: is SCC for kids here in America - or also - even though in Japan sexuality is very different from here, is it ok for the japanese kids to see boys dressed like girls and vice-versa? Because as far as I know, in Japan kids do not do that, and if the do... you can also give your opinion about that.
Omar wrote:
I am not saying that SCC is the worst thing you can do to your son, of course not, but parents should explain to little kids what happens on this anime, because if not, they won't be able to understand it. I know many of the unconscious mind, and I believe there could be a minimal posibility that a child may find this relationships as normal, because unconsciously when he/she saw SCC it appeared normal to him/her. |
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omar235
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Kids WB thought so and they aired it...well here in America you can dress as a girl...and girls can dress as guys...I would asume you could in Japan to due to its lax nature...I actually saw a transy when I lived in Orlando walking out of McDonalds...to say the least I lost my appetite...He was one of those ugly transies. 
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Shiroi Hane
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I'm not quite sure I see the relevance to either Cardcaptor Sakura, or to Japanese sexuality for that matter. The CCS anime and manga were aimed at Japanese girls. The Cardcaptors anime was aimed at American children (boys as well as girls). The uncut CCS anime was sold in the US marked 13up, so if your definition of "kid" includes teenagers then all versions are "for kids" anyway, otherwise it depends if you believe the US age recommendation. |
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cardcaptormanda
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While there are relationships in CCS that might be considered "inappropriate" by some people, the series handles them in a way that is very clean and kid-friendly. None of the relationships between the children ever really get beyond crushes or puppy-love, and if Yukito and Touya's relationship is more than that, it's never explored to a point I would call explicit.
If a child watching this show is too young to understand these relationships, they will probably just interpret them as being just very good friends. If someone is old enough to really understand these relationships, then they are most likely old enough to handle them as well. As for boys dressing like girls…aren't we talking about like, only a few episodes here? And the characters are only dressing up for a play, and they're embarrassed about the whole thing? It's all handled in a pretty comical way. It's not like the show is full of cross-dressers or anything, so I think this is a non-issue. |
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Sango_Lover
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I know this is a little off topic, but was the Uncut CCS released in the U.S. with a dub? or was the Uncut edition only in subs? |
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LydiaDianne
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It was sub only. Especially since DIC (?) only dubbed less than half of the episodes available...to make them boy friendly. 
As for the "relationships" in the series, what little boy or girl didn't admire an older child the way Shaoran and Sakura did Yukito. Yes, it could be considered "crushes" but if you watch the series the reason for their feelings is explained. Now, Shaoran's was due to spoiler[Yukito's magical nature] and while Sakura's was also related to that, she had a more serious feeling towards Yukito and had to go through a painful episode realizing what her true feelings were. As for Tomoyo's feelings towards Sakura, well, that may be a bit harder to explain but keep in mind, she and Sakura are spoiler[cousins], Tomoyo's has also probably heard lots of stories about her mother and Sakura's mother and last but not least, she loves Sakura because Sakura makes a really great dress-up doll! 
The relationship between Toya and Yukito is there and is more than somewhat obvious to those who know its there and are looking for it but the average young person won't really know and could 1) think that they are best friends and/or 2) could care less since they are not the main characters. |
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Ohoni
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Not all american kids are SAKs, Lord knows I wasn't, nor were most of my friends. They're out their though, and their parents vigilantly defend their SAKhood and ruin it for the rest of the kids.
That's India, and Indian kids don't read it either.
I don't know, Bugs Bunny did it. They've done it on American released eps of Pokemon. I'm pretty sure characters like Shaggy and Fred Flintstone crossdressed too at least once. |
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daxomni
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I'm just now starting CCS myself. At 18 volumes this will be the longest series I've ever even attempted. Thank goodness for the Right Stuf CCS Mega Bundle.
I think CCS is rather kid-friendly so far, but I do think it's a little odd how you supposedly have 4th graders 'dating' 11th graders. I don't recall being smitten with any high schoolers when I was in elementary school and I sure as hell wasn't interested in any elementary school kids when I was in high school. Maybe Japan is a very different world from where I grew up, but I'm guessing that it's not and that this is simply done to try and make the story more interesting. As for the same-sex crushes, they're becoming so common in anime at this point that I hardly even notice them any more. I do think the costume recap bits are a little odd. What's with the desk and pipe? Is it 'dirty old man' time again? Ugg. |
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Zalis116
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LydiaDianne
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 OOPS!
Well, both dubs sucked so...that mistake could happen to anyone! Thanks for the correction. |
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cardcaptormanda
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That almost makes it sound like they're steadily dating, which they are not.
It isn't really that unusual for a young girl to be interested in an older guy. Yukito had been the best friend of her brother for some time, and he’s really the only boy not her age she’s gotten to know. He’s almost unrealistically kind and gentle, and he’s been a part of her life for a while, so I don’t think it’s very surprising she would start to think of him that way. So, I think Sakura’s part of it is pretty normal and appropriate, since it’s just a crush that never goes anywhere. As for Yukito, he thinks of Sakura more like a little sister than anything else. He cares about her in a brotherly way, but that’s it. spoiler[He does know about her feelings for him, and to avoid hurting her feelings or complicating things, he’s very nice about it and avoids talking about it until she herself is ready to bring it up. When she finally tells him how she feels, he carefully and patiently explains to her that her feelings aren’t romantic love, but more like the kind of love she has for her father. When she examines her feelings more closely, she realizes that due to her age and inexperience, she simply misunderstood them for romantic love.]
I think it is safe to say there isn't even a trace of 'dirty old man' stuff in CCS.  I believe you’re interpreting it wrong.
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