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omiya



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:40 pm Reply with quote
How does one (politely) communicate to Avex Pictures that this isn't the way to get product sold?

PS, it's funny how their web site sends English until one reaches the contact page and contact form https://ssl.avexnet.or.jp/form/ask/avexportal/.

Have ANN approached Avex for comment?

Also, the Japanese language side of CD-Japan, http://www.neowing.co.jp has no such mention of export restrictions on the Yuri on Ice pages that I checked.


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KH91



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:42 pm Reply with quote
Before anyone complains about this, you should feel lucky that the folks in Japan even share their work with the rest of the world. Not that the titles mentioned are soul crushing or anything. Just a reminder.
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Ringking



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:49 pm Reply with quote
How utterly pointless. There are that many Japanese shop-on-demand services that if an international buyer really wants them, they are going to get them.
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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:50 pm Reply with quote
It is not a good business practice to refuse to sell to a customer, especially one that is willing to pay for shipping the product across an ocean.

There has got to be a reason beyond just "Avex said to do so."

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WingKing



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:50 pm Reply with quote
"bringing dreams, hope, excitement, and emotion to people all over the world." Except the people all over the rest of the world who might actually want to buy your products, apparently. I hope this is just an outlier and not the start of a trend. I'm not a BD buyer but I do import a few OP, ED, & Soundtrack CDs here and there, and I'd hate to get cut off from being able to buy them direct from CDJ or Amazon JP.

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Chrno2



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:50 pm Reply with quote
Never thought I'd find my favorite retailer in the news. I wonder if this has to do with illegal sharing? Because if that is the case then it's messing things up for everyone else.
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ShaunHastings



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:54 pm Reply with quote
Avex has too much money and doesn't want any more? Razz
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:57 pm Reply with quote
KH91 wrote:
Before anyone complains about this, you should feel lucky that the folks in Japan even share their work with the rest of the world. Not that the titles mentioned are soul crushing or anything. Just a reminder.


LOL. Such a baiting comment.

Avex can do whatever it wants with its products, and I can do whatever I want to do with my money as it's apparent that Avex doesn't want it. However, there are already legal ways to watch both YOI and Osomatsu through streaming services, and now, those who live in countries that are not serviced by legal streams have all the incentive necessary to enjoy the shows through other means.
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Raebo101



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:57 pm Reply with quote
Welp. FUNimation and Crunchyroll, it's all up to you guys now! Prepare for all the "when's Yuri on Ice coming out on Blu-ray?" questions. Razz
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deadFreak781



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:57 pm Reply with quote
I try to assume that Avex will sell DVDs and CDs through their subsidiaries abroad (PROTIP: They have).

Whatever... More fuel to the fire for the already racist, xenophobe and discriminator that is the Japanese music industry.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:10 pm Reply with quote
Chrno2 wrote:
Never thought I'd find my favorite retailer in the news. I wonder if this has to do with illegal sharing? Because if that is the case then it's messing things up for everyone else.

Hardly. I'm pretty confident most raws floating around are ripped and mostly circulating within Japan, if the ip addresses connecting in the swarms are anything to go by...

Which is also what makes this move so hard to understand, along the fact that there's none of the reasons for reverse-importation behind it when it was the other way around.

As Cutiebunny said above, if someone is ready to pay premium, you're one crazy seller to refuse. And it's not going to stop unlicensed stuff from appearing as those rips in Japan will inevitably leak to here in the west, having no such restrictions for themselves...
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:11 pm Reply with quote
I think that it'll be harder for Funimation to get it's licensing for any anime through AVEX especially if they decide not to sell it altogether. It could do with them cracking down on pirating or whatever, (I hope that's not the case) but also, if this starts to be a trend for anime companies I could see the big anime companies going for "streaming only".
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Agent355



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:12 pm Reply with quote
Wow, talk about isolation policies! So importers have to wait for Avex stuff to become available on the second hand market? Is the original soundtrack on MP3 download stores, or are CDs the only way to go?

Complete utter speculation: We've all heard of measures to reduce reverse importation, could this be someone's (wrong) idea of making Avex shows more valuable to international licensers? For example, trying to get, say, Funimation, to buy the rights for Osonatsu-san at a higher price because they'll be more demand for Funi's releases of that show if fans can't import the original release? Is that possible?
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Kiyoko



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:13 pm Reply with quote
I can understand the restrictions on the DVD/Blu-Ray durban to possible licensing with US companies.

But I wonder why the restrictions on CDs. I am a collector of anime soundtracks and always buy official ones from CD Japan. I have not seen a US company license and sell a soundtrack since the Suncoast boom days, and few if any are available on iTunes or Amazon's digital services. I'm sad that I may no longer have the chance to get these discs from Avex products in the future.
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DeTroyes



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Chances are this has more to do with international rights sales than with consumer sales.

Avex, like any entertainment company, sells the rights to their product to different overseas markets (Australia, Europe, North America, etc.). The rights holders in those countries want to be able to produce their own DVD editions within the market they've purchased the rights for. Since sales of a licensed product can be impacted by the easy availability of editions from other markets (especially if one market hasn't released an edition yet), it is in Avex's best interests to curtail as much as possible sales across those markets, in order to drive up the licensing fees as much as possible. Its a business decision: the number of sales they've lost to outside-of-Japan customers is almost certainly less than the amount they'll gain from licensing their product to different markets.

That said, its probably a futile effort in this internet driven age: copies will almost certainly wind up on places like eBay. This move will, at best, just slow the consumer-level international trade of their properties, but not stop it altogether.

Kiyoko wrote:
But I wonder why the restrictions on CDs. I am a collector of anime soundtracks and always buy official ones from CD Japan. I have not seen a US company license and sell a soundtrack since the Suncoast boom days, and few if any are available on iTunes or Amazon's digital services. I'm sad that I may no longer have the chance to get these discs from Avex products in the future.


Actually, I've long wondered why Crunchyroll or Funimation haven't started an iTunes-like service for anime soundtracks.
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