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Morry



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:29 pm Reply with quote
Well, that's a crying shame for me. I really liked this one.
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MozillaYaseen



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Morry wrote:
Well, that's a crying shame for me. I really liked this one.


Same here.It had so much potential.This Human and Vampire duo was a good idea and i really liked Ko.I hope the author can find another way to keep it going.There has to be a way!
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BrainBlow



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:41 pm Reply with quote
I realized this one was doomed by chapter 3. Rarely have I ever seen a series squander its vitally important first chapters like this one did, especially in a setting as brutally competitive as WSJ.

Almost nothing in the several first chapters has anything to do with the plot, and the characters introduced were of no importance or recurrence either. It wasn't a "slow start" so much as it was a whole lot of nothing. It's not even like the chapters did anything to deepen characterization much at all, not helped by characters put in focus then not even sticking around, nor did it do anything with the thematic concepts it toyed with during the villain of the week segments. And it's really frustrating since the last chapter showed what it should have been like from the start.

I blame the editors. This should not have gone to press, and the author was mislead if the editors actually approved this story structure as acceptable and competitive.
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matt78



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:46 pm Reply with quote
Shonen Jump is getting to the point where it isn't worth following a series before it hits the 50 chapter mark. I've lost track over the last couple of years of all the series I liked that got cancelled to early. How do they expect a series to get a following if the only allow them to run for such a short period of time. Series take time to gather a following. They can't
expect everything to be an instant success.
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lossthief
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:00 pm Reply with quote
matt78 wrote:
Shonen Jump is getting to the point where it isn't worth following a series before it hits the 50 chapter mark. I've lost track over the last couple of years of all the series I liked that got cancelled to early. How do they expect a series to get a following if the only allow them to run for such a short period of time. Series take time to gather a following. They can't
expect everything to be an instant success.


Dunno if you're just new to JUMP but they've actually been considerably MORE lenient with newer series the last few years. Used to be it was common for series to get cancelled before the first volume was even out - usually around 12-13 chapters. Meanwhile even series that have underperformed got at least 3 volumes to try to gain ground, and several (Moriking, Agravity Boys, Meitama Security) got considerably more.

As for "instant success" it's not like they expect series to become smash hits from volume 1, but if a series is barely selling even 5000 copies compared to others around it, there's only so long you can give it time before editorial decides that real estate is better served on a series with a higher potential ceiling.
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:16 pm Reply with quote
And then there's cases like Samurai 8, which bombed from volume 1 but kept going until chapter 43 in hopes that Kishimoto would prove he still had it in him after all.

Really, from what I can tell, Jump's been pretty consistent over time -- about 1 in 4 new series make it to the one-year mark, and of those, about 2 in 3 reach the two-year mark. What's different now is that a lot of veteran titles ended in a short amount of time, and they've had to churn through new series faster than before to find something that'll stick. This naturally results in something like Ayakashi Triangle, at chapter 29, being older than half the series in the magazine.

(If we're comparing to ages past, I note that Double Arts volume 3 sold 38K its first week back in 2008. That was its final volume. Anedoki, which ran 2009-10, cancelled at the same length despite being made by the creator of one of Jump's most popular rom-coms of the previous decade? Its three volumes had first-week sales of 54K, 56K, and 43K. For comparison, Chainsaw Man debuted at 25K, Jujutsu Kaisen at 28K, Dr. Stone at 36K, Black Clover at 38K... with the exception of Boruto, I think the last WSJ series to debut above 50K was My Hero Academia, at 71K. Granted, I don't know if Oricon counts digital sales...)

EDIT: You know, since digital sales might throw absolute numbers off, let's compare volume 1 debut rankings on the Oricon charts instead.

Chainsaw Man: #28
Jujutsu Kaisen: #31
Dr. Stone: #18
Black Clover: #23
Anedoki: #14

With the entire magazine getting translated and digitally distributed the same day, it may seem like Jump's more cancel-happy than they used to be. But if 2021 Jump had a new title rank at #14 its first week, there's no way I can see them canceling it at three volumes.

…On the other hand, Robot × Laserbeam had very strong sales to start, and it may be more comparable to Anedoki, as the return of an established mangaka. Still, they did give it four or five volumes before it got the ax, the sales stagnating the whole time.


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BlueAlf



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:49 am Reply with quote
I had a feeling that the Jump editorial were aiming for something 'different' with this series. That's why the early chapters were kept they way they were, especially in regards to pacing.

I was disappointed with this series too since the premise was actually quite promising. It could have developed into a lot of ways. I also get the impression that the author wasn't actually ready for weekly serialization yet , but still took the chance out of necessity.
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