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EmeraldSaucer
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Nojima commented on this with some fun insight on the influence DQ has on him and specifically how he had to learn to break away from the DQ mindset of blank slate mute protagonists. How he started with a protagonist who thinks he's stoic but actually talks a lot, to one who actually is stoic but has a lot of internal dialogue, to finally one who is just very talkative and extroverted, fully breaking away
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MFrontier
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 7:17 am |
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No shame in liking X!
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mdo7
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:22 pm |
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So 10/X huh. Well that's interesting because I thought he would like FF7 given the cultural impact on the world/global stage when it comes to JRPG/RPG on consoles.
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Zendervai
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:29 pm |
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| mdo7 wrote: | | So 10/X huh. Well that's interesting because I thought he would like FF7 given the cultural impact on the world/global stage when it comes to JRPG/RPG on consoles. |
...I don't mean to be rude, but I don't really get this mindset. Like, yeah, FF7 had a huge cultural impact. Why would that affect which one he personally likes the most? It's a personal enjoyment thing, not a thing about how it affected the industry.
Especially since Dragon Quest seems to take very little direct inspiration from FF7 beyond having a character get redesigned to look kinda like Sephiroth eventually.
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BadNewsBlues
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:33 pm |
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Didn’t want to waste time huh?
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tintor2
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 5:29 pm |
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Cloud had dialogue in the original but he was often shown having a distant self before Advent Children gave him a silent and depressed personality. Squall was basically a shutin considering he rarely interacts with others. Zidane and Tidus were far more more social despite the constant danger they are into
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Silver Kirin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:39 am |
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| mdo7 wrote: | | So 10/X huh. Well that's interesting because I thought he would like FF7 given the cultural impact on the world/global stage when it comes to JRPG/RPG on consoles. |
While I wouldn't say Final Fantasy VII is not unpopular in Japan, I believe it doesn't have the same reputation as it has in the West, yes, it became a huge hit in Japan on the original PlayStation selling over 2 million copies on its debut, but the FF series was already popular on Nintendo systems since the release of FFIII. I actually never seen any direct references to Final Fantasy VII in other Japanese media, for example, whenever an stereotypical JRPG game gets parodied or referenced on an anime or manga it always default to direct reference to Dragon Quest III, while in the West it always tends to be a parody of FFVII. That kinds of reminds me when Cloud was added to Smash Bros., most Japanese fans said that he was chosen to appeal to Western fans.
In regards to Finak Fantasy X, it almost ranks at first place in Japanese popularity polls, I bet it was a huge deal at the time for a RPG game having full 3D graphics and voice acting, Suteki da Ne also ranks as the most popular FF vocal song.
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mdo7
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| Zendervai wrote: | | ...I don't mean to be rude, but I don't really get this mindset. Like, yeah, FF7 had a huge cultural impact. Why would that affect which one he personally likes the most? It's a personal enjoyment thing, not a thing about how it affected the industry.
Especially since Dragon Quest seems to take very little direct inspiration from FF7 beyond having a character get redesigned to look kinda like Sephiroth eventually. |
No, you're not rude. It's just my opinion and just something from my point of view. If one is to read the impact of Final Fantasy 7, and if one is familiar with the spin-off and tie-in sequel and prequel (Compilation of Final Fantasy 7), then you would know the impact Final Fantasy 7 on the cultural level worldwide. So that's why I was sort of surprised that Final Fantasy was not the one that was supposed to be the favorite. I don't denied that Final Fantasy 10/X is another influential FF title in both Japan and worldwide. But you can't denied Final Fantasy 7's influence and legacy impact for FF series, and RPG worldwide. I understand why he would chose Final Fantasy 10 over 7, but it still surprised me that he didn't cite 7 despite it's worldwide impact on RPG.
| Silver Kirin wrote: | | While I wouldn't say Final Fantasy VII is not unpopular in Japan, I believe it doesn't have the same reputation as it has in the West, yes, it became a huge hit in Japan on the original PlayStation selling over 2 million copies on its debut, but the FF series was already popular on Nintendo systems since the release of FFIII. I actually never seen any direct references to Final Fantasy VII in other Japanese media, for example, whenever an stereotypical JRPG game gets parodied or referenced on an anime or manga it always default to direct reference to Dragon Quest III, while in the West it always tends to be a parody of FFVII. That kinds of reminds me when Cloud was added to Smash Bros., most Japanese fans said that he was chosen to appeal to Western fans.
In regards to Final Fantasy X, it almost ranks at first place in Japanese popularity polls, I bet it was a huge deal at the time for a RPG game having full 3D graphics and voice acting, Suteki da Ne also ranks as the most popular FF vocal song. |
It would make sense why he chose Final Fantasy 10 over 7, and I can understand that. But at the end of the day, it still surprised me though. And I'm glad you explained about Final Fantasy 7 in Japan, and that surprised me also because I remembered reading this from Wikipedia on Final Fantasy 10 entry, and I'll quote this from Wikipedia about FF10:
| Wikipedia wrote: | | As a result of the title's popularity, Yoshinori Kitase and Kazushige Nojima decided to establish a plot-related connection between Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy VII, another well-received Final Fantasy game. |
Wikipedia cited Final Fantasy X Ultimania Ω (in Japanese). DigiCube. p. 191. as the source for that info. So yeah, I have nothing else to say other then whatever I said above.
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Silver Kirin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 12:44 pm |
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| mdo7 wrote: | | If one is to read the impact of Final Fantasy 7, and if one is familiar with the spin-off and tie-in sequel and prequel (Compilation of Final Fantasy 7), then you would know the impact Final Fantasy 7 on the cultural level worldwide. So that's why I was sort of surprised that Final Fantasy was not the one that was supposed to be the favorite. |
Don't want to stray from the topic, but I wouldn't say that Final Fantasy VII made a complete worldwide cultural impact, at least compared to other video games like Pong, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros., Sonic the Hedgehog, Street Fighter II and Doom, among others, not trying to downplay FFVII's importance, but I believe its impact was stronger in regions like the U.S and Canada and some European countries, where the game was officially translated, I'm from Latin America and the FF series as a whole has more of a cult following, despite the original PlayStation been one of the most successful consoles in the region, JRPGs were not a popular genre, since they were not officially translated and we know JRPGs are very heavy on text, even some people managed to get through some games like Resident Evil using a dictionary, even if you were lucky and managed to get a pirated copy of FFVII's European Spanish version, that translation left a lot to be desired, unlike Metal Gear Solid's European Spanish version which actually had a pretty good translation and dub. That's a reason why there's a joke among Spanish-speaking gamers that only Spaniards are fans of Final Fantasy, especially VII, ironically, Square-Enix gave Final Fantasy XVI an official Neutral Spanish dub, but I didn't see many people here in Latin America talking about the game.
I also don't if the original FFVII was translated into Chinese, Korean or other Asian languages.
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