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48 Rices
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 1:58 am |
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Whoa, I am surprised that you'd talk about robot themed aeni here. Now would you make one for Korean magical girl shows?
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Meexa
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 6:24 pm |
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Sentai animals go!
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Primus
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 8:35 pm |
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No mention of Mecard? The one Korean mech show that resulted in lawsuits (that they won).
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tuxedo-melvin
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 5:48 am |
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It's a shame Prime was the last good Transformers cartoon and that came out 16 years ago at this point. I know parents and networks complained it was too dark so they had to pivot hard back to kiddy stuff like RID, Rescue Bots, Botbots, Cyberverse, Earthspark, and the current Cyberworld and that's just the general trend of modern western animation now unless it's an edgy Netflix 6-8 episode season show which Transformers did try with the War for Cybertron trilogy back during Covid but sadly I don't think the animation market that's made to sell toys really exists anymore with how short episodes and seasons are now where the entirety of WFC was shorter than the first season of Beast Wars. I guess the best we can hope for is Studio Trigger or someone else in Japan gets to take a crack at a series at some point.
None of these Korean robot kids shows I've been seeing look any more interesting or different than the Transformers YouTube series for kids like Cyberworld/Wild King. The only one I remember was Dinocore and that was mainly because Kaya went viral for her jiggle physics that sadly got removed after the first season. Part of what makes me invested in a toy line is the characters and none of these shows really hook me because of not only the writing but how short each episode is and I hate that it's the standard for non-anime animation now.. I'd much rather just get the new figures from past shows like G1, Beast Wars, Car Robot, Unicon Trilogy, Animated, and Prime. Currently waiting for the last two Combaticons to complete Bruticus.
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tinyirnfist0
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 7:56 am |
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| tuxedo-melvin wrote: | | The only one I remember was Dinocore and that was mainly because Kaya went viral for her jiggle physics that sadly got removed after the first season. |
Gross. That's a teenage girl.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 8:02 am |
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...There's a "No Transformers" rule for the column? What? Why? How?? When??? And for that matter, where???
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 9:41 am |
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If that Energon Universe show comes out, well, odds are it will have the same awful animation as Invincible while spending most of its budget on A-list celebrities. It would be worth discussing only to discuss how Kirkman's sauceless studio screwed up a relatively popular comic visually, while spending its entire budget on hiring Chris Hemsworth as Optimus Prime and Emilia Clarke as the Baroness.
OK, that brief rant over, a lot of these newer attempts at getting back into the transforming mechanoid or even armored creature genre (Metal Cardbot, Armorsaurus, and many others I could mention) never secure enough of a foreign audience to really go anywhere. They'll get some brief attention for not being the same old brands, but they rarely keep that attention. It's not enough to just be different from the competition; you need to have something that won't make your ears bleed, and something people will be attached to. A Cardbot toy in retail, or even worse, Amazon.com, isn't going to get the attention of 8 out of 10 kids who have no frame of reference for it and wouldn't pay attention to an awfully dubbed show long enough to care. Even if they're good toys that are clearly superior in build quality and value to Hasbro's efforts as of late.
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Doubleclouder
Joined: 07 Jan 2024
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 7:50 pm |
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| Beatdigga wrote: | | If that Energon Universe show comes out, well, odds are it will have the same awful animation as Invincible while spending most of its budget on A-list celebrities. It would be worth discussing only to discuss how Kirkman's sauceless studio screwed up a relatively popular comic visually, while spending its entire budget on hiring Chris Hemsworth as Optimus Prime and Emilia Clarke as the Baroness. |
From what I've read Kirkman dislikes his original Invincible comic these days and considers it a relic from his less progressive past which is why he changed a lot for the cartoon. Given Skybound's Transformers is more recent it might not have as many changes, especially since Hasbro would also be in control and after the mess that IDW did with the franchise I imagine they have Skybound on a tighter leash. But there's also the fact Kirkman did not write the original run of Transformers but Daniel Warren Johnson did and from what I've heard Kirkman taking over the writing has been less than well-regarded.
| Quote: | | OK, that brief rant over, a lot of these newer attempts at getting back into the transforming mechanoid or even armored creature genre (Metal Cardbot, Armorsaurus, and many others I could mention) never secure enough of a foreign audience to really go anywhere. They'll get some brief attention for not being the same old brands, but they rarely keep that attention. It's not enough to just be different from the competition; you need to have something that won't make your ears bleed, and something people will be attached to. A Cardbot toy in retail, or even worse, Amazon.com, isn't going to get the attention of 8 out of 10 kids who have no frame of reference for it and wouldn't pay attention to an awfully dubbed show long enough to care. Even if they're good toys that are clearly superior in build quality and value to Hasbro's efforts as of late. |
I do find the idea any franchise could be the Transformers-killer to be very questionable. It reminds me when people keep trying to push random new magic school-focused books or shows as the new Harry Potter and they always end up being ignored and people keep enjoying Harry Potter. Or how so many MMOs tried to be the WoW-killer and ended up going end of service after a year or two and everyone went back to WoW. Transformers just has too much character and brand recognition and is ingrained too much in pop culture to really be threatened by a new flavor of the month series. I haven't messed with a Metal Cardbot myself but from what I've seen from Transformer reviews channels they're not really that similar beyond being transforming robots. It looks more like how Transformers used to be where they had tons of partsforming, kibble, and very little articulation. I watched a video review of Blue Cop and while it looks neat it looks like a brick pretty much and has junk everywhere. I guess if people are nostalgic for the Armada-era of toys it might scratch their itch but without a strong attatchment to the character or lore I didn't really have much interest in getting any. I'll wait for them to give us a modern Goshooter (I already got the Fans Hobby version) which might eventually be coming since we did get God Ginrai fairly recently which means they acknowledge Masterforce exists.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 8:50 am |
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| Doubleclouder wrote: | |
From what I've read Kirkman dislikes his original Invincible comic these days and considers it a relic from his less progressive past which is why he changed a lot for the cartoon. Given Skybound's Transformers is more recent it might not have as many changes, especially since Hasbro would also be in control and after the mess that IDW did with the franchise I imagine they have Skybound on a tighter leash. But there's also the fact Kirkman did not write the original run of Transformers but Daniel Warren Johnson did and from what I've heard Kirkman taking over the writing has been less than well-regarded. |
I was thinking more about the animation, which is horrendous, with numerous errors in every episode, despite the budget. The budget is mostly being spent on A-list celebrities (at one point, they tried to get Tom Cruise, who turned it down because he dislikes doing television work), and the animation is left to suffer. It's even funnier because Kirkman has been very publicly touting that he wants to build a comic-to-animation pipeline in the same vein as the manga-to-animation one in the hopes of getting comics not belonging to the Big Two of Marvel and DC attention they wouldn't get otherwise. Also, that pipeline, or the concept of such, would be a fascinating subject for a column to discuss.
And yeah, everyone is kind of hoping at SDCC Kirkman announces a new creative team to replace himself and the artist Jason Howard (not sure who would write, but I kind of want Naoto Tsushima to take over art duties).
| Quote: | | I do find the idea any franchise could be the Transformers-killer to be very questionable. It reminds me when people keep trying to push random new magic school-focused books or shows as the new Harry Potter and they always end up being ignored and people keep enjoying Harry Potter. Or how so many MMOs tried to be the WoW-killer and ended up going end of service after a year or two and everyone went back to WoW. Transformers just has too much character and brand recognition and is ingrained too much in pop culture to really be threatened by a new flavor of the month series. I haven't messed with a Metal Cardbot myself but from what I've seen from Transformer reviews channels they're not really that similar beyond being transforming robots. It looks more like how Transformers used to be where they had tons of partsforming, kibble, and very little articulation. I watched a video review of Blue Cop and while it looks neat it looks like a brick pretty much and has junk everywhere. I guess if people are nostalgic for the Armada-era of toys it might scratch their itch but without a strong attatchment to the character or lore I didn't really have much interest in getting any. I'll wait for them to give us a modern Goshooter (I already got the Fans Hobby version) which might eventually be coming since we did get God Ginrai fairly recently which means they acknowledge Masterforce exists. |
It feels like every few years, there is a new toyline, and it's not just Transformers, but any of the established brands, that gets hyped as a "_____ killer" but it never quite takes off the way people want it to. I find that the people who often want it to succeed are fans of the brand that it's targeting, with the hope that healthy competition will force the hands of the people working on it and lead to the brand they're fans of improving their merchandise or storytelling. But it doesn't usually work out that way since most of these brands lack that awareness that the legacy brands have, nor do they want to put in the time and capital to actually make a run at being a true replacement since they fear burning out with no natural interest.
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tinyirnfist0
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:48 am |
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| Quote: | | And yeah, everyone is kind of hoping at SDCC Kirkman announces a new creative team to replace himself and the artist Jason Howard (not sure who would write, but I kind of want Naoto Tsushima to take over art duties). |
Do you think readers will be fine with a manga-esque art style? Just asking because I'm not too fond of the Skybound Transformers comics. I prefer the IDW Transformers comics or at least the 1st continuity comics from the 2010s.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 3:16 pm |
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Given Daniel Warren Johnson’s art was the most praised of the book (I’ve seen a lot of favorable comparisons to him and Hiroyuki Imashi) and Tsushima’s experience with the Transformers I think it would go over very well. Certainly better than Howard’s art, which is getting trashed.
I think that alone says a lot about these brands and the challenges any new product would face. The new audience simply is not being given a reason to invest that the older product already has due to decades of goodwill.
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Agent Cordon
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 2:15 pm |
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| tinyirnfist0 wrote: | | Do you think readers will be fine with a manga-esque art style? Just asking because I'm not too fond of the Skybound Transformers comics. I prefer the IDW Transformers comics or at least the 1st continuity comics from the 2010s. |
Sadly there is a lot of people in the Transformers fandom who seems to dislike anything remotely Japanese so this would be a problem. But I'd love to see Japan take on the franchise again beyond Wild King. If only Studio Trigger got their chance...
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