Forum - View topicholy toledo, the Gunbuster 2 DVD is EXPENSIVE!
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Porcupine
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$40 for just 2 episodes! And so far, no sales for it anywhere that I've seen, at least in real life. BTW, it's already out (early) in most places. Ouch, that is painful. That is almost as expensive as typical anime is in Japan, though still a bit cheaper.
Bandai Visual also just released another Vol. 1 anime title which also is $40 for 2 episodes, I forgot the name. Why are they being so evil? Anyone know of an affordable place to get these titles? |
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HellKorn
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Demon Prince Enma, I think? It's not a fair comparison if it's specifically that, as the OVA episodes are about forty-five minutes in length, so minus the English dub and you're getting more band for your buck than, say, Hellsing Ultimate.
Because they understand anime fan wants, as they say. Surveying people at a convention and finding them to favor subtitles over an English dub does that. Oh, and I'd suspect that they're "limited that is now not limited" editions of the first two Patlabor films not selling that well (presumably, since I don't have any numbers to back up that claim) isn't a good thing, either. All of that, and they really don't understand the R1 market. I don't have a fit of RIGHTEOUS RAGE TO CURSE THEM OUT AND HOPE THAT THEY FAIL like the majority of fans do since I actually want to get these titles (really, outside of general things like no English dub and higher MSRP prices, and one issue with the original Gunbuster, they're really excellent), but it's inane to defend their "strategy," honestly.
DVD Pacific is one of the best places on the Internet to buy DVDs and CDs. That's what I use, at least. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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You're calling $40 bucks expensive? Shoot, here the damn thing goes for $55 bucks at my Best Buy. I've been waiting for sales on ebay myself.
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Deltakiral
 Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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My plan is to wait for no one to buy it at best buy and eventually they'll clearance it, remember when the boxset of Otogi Zoshi was only $30? I plan on doing the same thing for Patlabor the first movie seeing as how it's never going to sell, and my local BB has it sitting there waiting for me to buy on sale. |
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Kruszer
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Yeah, I've nicknamed the series bank-buster, myself. It looks interesting but given that it's expensive, the lousy episode count, and the fact it's not even dubbed I just can't justify picking up either title, personally.
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Steventheeunuch
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Thing is, I'm thinking of picking up Wings of Rean and possibly Gunbuster 2, because I sort of know what BVUSA are trying to do and accomplish, and I realise it is not a popular move. On the other hand, I don't mind paying a little bit extra if I can be gauranteed of a quality product, to which from what I've seen of reviews, they are. No, I'm not picky about having English dubs, but if it's a sub only, compotent release then for me, it's okay. I sort of thought this might have happened eventually anyway.
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bahamut623
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Bandai Visual says they're trying to have Japanese and US releases closer together or even at the same time with their strategy, but last time I checked, Gunbuster 2 ended about a year ago.
This is a bit of a stretch, but they had what was potentially the next FLCL, but they've now doomed it to obscurity. Gunbuster 2 could have gained alot of popularity airing on TV. With no dubs, and two episodes, the price is just ludicrous. I was set to buy this when I heard it was licensed, but as it is, I;m sticking with the fansubs. Not dubbing Gunbuster 1 I can understand since it was impossible, but there's just no excuse for this. How do you justify two dubless episodes at 40 bucks, when you can get 5 dubbed episodes of another series at half the price?? |
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Steventheeunuch
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Yeah, five episodes of a series that may not be as good, or what people want. You can't always assume the consumer will always go for a larger ammount of episodes, and you need to realise that this release is more or less aimed at those who already know about Diebuster/want Diebuster but as of yet haven't imported it or whatever. They've made clear these releases are not for the mainstream, but moreso the more uhh.. 'insane' fan, I guess.
Sure, Diebuster was released a year ago, as waster before that, and the patlabor remasters were like, a 2003 thing. Since those releases were done before Bandai Visual USA entered the market, they obvious have to somehow compensate and you won't get a lot of the simultaneous releases of those sorts of shows. However, Freedom OAV is showing that they do, infact, want to persue it. You can't go back in time. |
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Porcupine
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Lol, bank-buster.
I second bahamut's feelings that evil Bandai has perhaps doomed the potential next FLCL into obscurity. I haven't seen Gunbuster 2 myself yet (I don't ever download fansubs) but it does seem good and heavily influenced by FLCL. The thing is, even IF Gunbuster 2 is worth the price (to be worth it, it has to have 4x the quality of other anime, to match the price and episode count) most people won't take the chance to find out...the price is just way too ridiculous. BTW, a couple of you guys confused Gunbuster 2 with Gunbuster (1). The $55 thing at Best Buy is the Gunbuster 1 DVD set which is an entirely different show and has more episodes. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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It's also confusing that there are two different companies that license anime in America called Bandai. I thought Bandai Visual was going to use a new label like Honneamise or something to help distinguish them from Bandai Ent.
But as for the Gunbuster franchise, while I didn't have an interest in collecting G2 I am supportive of their release of the original Gunbuster. Gunbuster is a classic Sci-Fi show that won the hearts of fans very early on in the old days of fandom and I think its current release will help revive that feeling of excitement for some of the original fans of the show. Plus it will help newcomers to anime get a taste of what this highly influential and landmark work of sci-fi art is all about. However Gunbuster never did impress me back when I first saw it. It seems like Bandai Visual is going the very shounen oriented route with their releases as they have been typically known for in Japan with their numerous mecha and sci-fi themed shows. One title that I am looking out for is Wings of Honneamise which I used to have on LD (lost the disk somehow) so I'll be paying a pretty penny to get my hands on a DVD copy (although it's unclear if Bandai Visual is even releasing this title). Anyway, no worries about episode count since it's a movie and I always have a preference for subtitled. |
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Randall Miyashiro
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I bought the Galaxy Angel Bricks for $21.59 for each season (Galaxy A is on sale for $19.99 at TRSI) from BE which is the king of cheap boxsets and bricks. Galaxy Angel Rune retails for $170 for the entire season from BV. Granted BE original releases for Galaxy Angel was $90-120 they did have a dub track and still were a good amount cheaper. The BE bricks are amazingly affordable. As I stated elsewhere I coming up with the funds to buy BV is not that big of an issue, but supporting what they are doing would bother me almost as much as buying a bootleg. I would rather spend a little extra and buy the R2s since although the subs are a decent bonus, they are not good enough for me to go against my principles. The episode count also upsets me since I have absolutely no more room in my room for more DVDs even though I throw away the clamshells that they are shipped in. I refused to buy Gantz (until the thinpaks swayed me) for this same reason. I'm not buying any BV DVDs for the time being, and I buy pretty much anything that sounds vaguely interesting, |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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I like Galaxy Angel and I want to eventually get every disk of every series but it's like 3 different sequels/spinoffs were released nearly the same time by 2 different companies, it's kind of overwhelming even if they are cheap. I still even haven't finished my collection of the original but I have the artbox.
Oh Randall-san, could you explain more in depth about why Bandai Visual's strategy goes against your principles? What is it about what they are doing differently that bothers you? I wouldn't necessarily disagree with it but I think there is something I am unclear of or unaware about. Thanks. |
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Randall Miyashiro
Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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The primary reason why I buy R1 DVDs over R2 DVDs is the price difference. The secondary reason why I buy them is the higher episode count. These two reasons are not present with Bandai Visual's current marketing plan, and subtitles are not quite important enough to me to justify paying the same amount for a domestic release since this will help send Bandai Visual the message that fans are willing to pay the same amount per episode as the Japanese market.
On the flip side I tend to buy anything that Bandai Entertainment releases as a cheap brick to support the lower costs of anime. I believe the only DVDs from them that rank in the top 1000 titles on this site that I'm missing are Cyber Formula, Eat Man 98, Fancy Lala, Gainer, and Love Hina. I'm most likely going to buy Cyber Formula soon since I believe it is on sale at TRSI, and I plan on buying Gainer as soon as a box set is announced. There are a few other Bandai titles like Clockwork Fighters and Angel Tales that rank really low on the ANN polls and I have no interest in getting, but otherwise I will soon have the complete Bandai Entertainment catalog. This might come across as being petty or stubborn but my line of thinking is if otaku like me are not going to buy Bandai Visual USA DVDs nobody will. I'm a big Byston Wells fan and loved the original Gunbusters so might resort on ordering the imports for a little more. I just hope BV doesn't get more sequels to series that I like. |
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Deltakiral
Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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I don't think it comes off as stubborn, it's more like your being honest. And I see your point, I am BV target Audience. I want the old releases and Freedom, and I want Wing of Rean and the old Gunbusters series. But with these prices I can't support what they are doing, buying dvds sends the wrong message. I'll wait until they become clearance items and pick them up for dirt cheap, this will happen sometime after BV has left market because a lack of profit. |
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Porcupine
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NOW it all makes sense. I had no idea that Bandai Visual and Bandai Ent were 2 different companies. Can anyone explain this in more detail? Why do these 2 companies share the Bandai name if they are so different? By the way, the 'Honneamise' label is indeed clearly stamped on both the spine and the back of the Gunbuster 2 and Demon Prince Enma DVDs. I thought 'Honneamise' what company is this, but then I saw 'Bandai Visual' on the back and just assumed it was Bandai Entertainment, the same thing. But I guess not. Hey, that's a good idea regarding the bootlegs, Randall. I am going to check how cheap they are now.  ; I don't want fansubs because I don't like the video quality, but bootlegs usually have better video quality (not always) just worse subs. With only 6 total episodes, if the bootlegs are the exact same quality as the originals I would probably buy it. (but if only half quality, as is the typical case, then no).
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