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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:36 pm Reply with quote
I was just thinking of this but have their been any anime so far that have defined this decade? (through 7 years, 3 months and 3 days).

I mean when we look back at the 90s for example we have series like:

Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis, Trigun, Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, Rurouni Kenshin, Princess Mononoke, Ghost in the Shell, Akira and so on.

The 80s had series like:

Gundam (Mobile Suit Gundam's run into the 80s along with Zeta and ZZ and I believe 0080), Maison Ikkoku, Ranma 1/2, Kimagure Orange Road, Naussica and the Valley of the Wind, Grave of the Fireflies and Super Dimensional Fortress Macross

The 70s had:

Lupin III, Devilman, and Cutey Honey

And finally the 60s had:

Speed Racer, Astroboy and etc.

(sorry these were just the anime that came of my head first)

Well basically as we all know those are Anime that have defined their decades. So my question is, what Anime define this decade (2000-2010)?

Now I've been watching Anime since well before 2000 but from the list of anime I've seen this decade there isn't really one that I think would define this decade. Its not that there haven't been any great anime this decade, I think that there has been a great amount but do any of them have the distinction of defining this decade is what I'm wondering?
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headpower



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:49 pm Reply with quote
code geass off the top of my head, ghost in the shell TV series too, the movie was in 90's but the tv series was in 2002, Gurren Lagann should be up there somewhere

I think you should include gunbuster in the 80's, it was a blockbluster hit and later defined what gainax is today .

I disagree putting trigun up there, it is a good cowboy gun fight show, but it didn't make as much as impact as the other 90's show you mentioned. If you going to put trigun up there, might as well include outlaw star.

You should include detective conan too, it might not popular in the states, but if you going to include dragonball, and sailormoon then shows like detective conan and one piece should be there too.

Record of Lodoss war OVA was the one of the first good ova int he 90's and many still enjoyed it, it did define the fantasy/adventure shows that many followed

Akira is in the 80's btw.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:57 pm Reply with quote
Was Akira 80s? I thought it was early 90s just because of the quality of Animation not to say the 80s didn't have good animation but it just seemed like it was more 90s-ish.

And yes by Ghost in the Shell I was referring to the movie, hence the lack of "SAC". Haven't seen Gunbuster so thats why it was left off of the examples.

Like I said these were just off the top of my head.
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headpower



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:02 pm Reply with quote
Akira was 1988's, i remember watching it on laserdisc when i was a kid.

You should definitely watch gunbuster, a great masterpiece.
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For decade-defining anime, there are five that come to mind off the top of my head:

Spirited Away (2001): An instant classic that pretty much the entire world agreed was awesome. Not only was it a sweet story that people of all ages could enjoy, but the art, animation, and music were stunning.

Naruto (2002): It may not be the greatest of series, and the filler arc may be pointless and go on forever, but you certainly see it around...constantly. I think Naruto will be remembered for years to come for being so universally popular. Even if they don' t like it, nearly everyone in the anime fandom currently has heard of it.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (2002) and GitS: SAC 2nd GIG (2005): This series set a totally new standard for anime on TV; the animation quality is almost on par with what you'd expect from a feature-length film. Add in Kanno Yoko's wonderful soundtrack and one of the few dubs that actually surpasses the sub, and it's easily one of the most memorable series of the decade.

Fullmetal Alchemist (2003): In addition to being beautifully animated, this show was (and still is) staggeringly popular, and I think it has a great chance of at least being remembered in future decades as, if not an interesting and emotional anime, a massive marketing juggernaut.

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (2006): If the series itself, with its wonderfully smooth animation and quirky characters, doesn't survive the ages, the randomness and incredible popularity of the Hare Hare Yukai dance surely will.

I'm not too big on the fansub scene, so I just mentioned series that have seemed to remain quite popular and well known after some aging.
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ShadowTrader



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:08 pm Reply with quote
Well since the decade isn't over yet we can't jump to conclusions but I'll give you my opinion anyway.
I think its better to pick the best from one genre, and all the ones here are all series with maturing ratings, so it's definitely biased.
Action
Black Lagoon This one beat out Ghost in the Shell in my opinion just by a slim margin, but the reason is just because it was less sci-fi and I could relate to the characters more, thus the plot was more intriguing.

Romance
Rumbling Hearts
This one just leaves a deep mark on your soul, and makes you hope you never have to be in that kind of love triangle. The strength was in the depth of the character development and the exploration of the human psyche. All emotions were explored here, including sadness, loneliness, passion, anxiety, fear, love, etc. which made for one intriguing story.

Psychological
Monster I thought Death Note was number one in this category but that was until I watched this series. 74 episodes don't do it justice, the suspense was just killer, and it could of easily went on for another 100. Not a single episode was wasted, and every plot point led to another mystery and more suspense. I think my lung capacity increased after having to hold my breath so many times.

Movie
5 Centimeters Per Second I felt I had to include a movie here, and this one doesn't disappoint, well spoiler[ the ending does], but thats another story. Truly a masterpiece of story telling and art work. It was heart wrenching to say the least and really made me look at my life.

Thats all I got this for this decade I know I left out a lot of genres but there weren't many other masterpieces...
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Oronae



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If there is a long running Shonen series that WILL be remembered it's One Piece. Given the series' popularity in Japan I'm inclined to think it's more likely to be the next Dragon Ball than the next YuYu Hakusho.

I'm inclined to think, on the other hand, that Naruto may not be so fortunate. The series is so inundated by filler and useless time wasting even in Shippuden that I feel that once the story has finished being told people are unlikely to return to it. Unlike Dragon Ball, Naruto doesn't really seem to have enough substance to it to justify sitting through the painfully slow experience of watching it again. I'd almost class Yu-Gi-Oh as more likely to have lasting influence than it.

Other series that are likely to be remembered are Gurren Lagann and Death Note. Both of these have generated more than enough buzz and have enough substance to them that I see them still being worth watching even 10 years from now. Code Geass also does seems to have something going for it but any judgement on what its impact will be must wait until it actually finishes airing.

Edit: I'm also inclined to hope that Azumanga Daioh and Fruits Basket will be, at the very least, remembered a decade from now.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:19 am Reply with quote
how can you compare black lagoon to ghost in the shell...... one is a mafia adventure type of story, one is about criminals, detective type of show mix with social phenomenal. At best you can compare cowboy bebop and black lagoon....


I am sorry, ghost in the shell is more plot intriguing than black lagoon any day. The plot twist, and the way how ghost keep you thinking all the time is different than how you can just sit on a counch and relax and enjoy black lagoon when you are off work.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:13 am Reply with quote
Murasakisuishou wrote:
For decade-defining anime, there are five that come to mind off the top of my head:

Spirited Away (2001): An instant classic that pretty much the entire world agreed was awesome. Not only was it a sweet story that people of all ages could enjoy, but the art, animation, and music were stunning.

Naruto (2002): It may not be the greatest of series, and the filler arc may be pointless and go on forever, but you certainly see it around...constantly. I think Naruto will be remembered for years to come for being so universally popular. Even if they don' t like it, nearly everyone in the anime fandom currently has heard of it.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (2002) and GitS: SAC 2nd GIG (2005): This series set a totally new standard for anime on TV; the animation quality is almost on par with what you'd expect from a feature-length film. Add in Kanno Yoko's wonderful soundtrack and one of the few dubs that actually surpasses the sub, and it's easily one of the most memorable series of the decade.

Fullmetal Alchemist (2003): In addition to being beautifully animated, this show was (and still is) staggeringly popular, and I think it has a great chance of at least being remembered in future decades as, if not an interesting and emotional anime, a massive marketing juggernaut.

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (2006): If the series itself, with its wonderfully smooth animation and quirky characters, doesn't survive the ages, the randomness and incredible popularity of the Hare Hare Yukai dance surely will.

I'm not too big on the fansub scene, so I just mentioned series that have seemed to remain quite popular and well known after some aging.



for The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, i would hold back on that one....compaired to the others its not defining this decade. Maybe to the hardcore anime kids but not the casual anime people.

infact i wouldnt be surprise if Lucky Star is one of the anime that people will remember, due to the fact that its an anime about a person that loves video games, manga, and anime. that hits home to alot of people, we'll see once anime hits stores in May.
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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:30 am Reply with quote
Although I haven’t yet watched Death Note, GITS:SAC or FMA, I’ll admit people will probably be talking more about them than my personal post-2000 favourites in years to come.
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cool3865



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:58 am Reply with quote
even though we still have two years left:
EDIT: even though it looks like a list post, the reason i didn't include a description is that everyone and i mean EVERYONE knows about these anime. These are the ones that people are going to remember in 10,20 years from now. Heck even my parents know about these animes and they dont watch them.

Deathnote
Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Naruto
Full Metal Alchemist
Spirited Away
(maybe Lucky Star, actually i think it might take off for the next decade, kinda like Dragon Ball Z did. DBZ was made in 1988 but didn't really take off untill the early to mid 90's)


90's had the big three anime

Dragon Ball Z and all of its other spin offs
Sailor Moon
Cowboy Bebop


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:05 am Reply with quote
Time for me to wave the usual finger:

In about two or three hours' time, I'm going to go back through this thread, and I'm going to summarily delete every single post that qualifies as a list post. That is, a post which is more or less just a listing of titles, with little or no reasoning presented to justify it.

I remind everyone that we have a policy prohibiting list posts. If a thread devolves into listing, it is customary to lock it. I would rather not do that, since this is an interesting topic, and one of the more intelligent ones recently (credit to IchigoK90 for starting it).

So, consider yourselves warned. After I have had my supper, I will return -- and while I do get more mellow after a good solid meal (and hey, I'm a very good cook), I wouldn't count on my mellowness, if I were you.

- abunai
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:16 am Reply with quote
I would love to say Gurren Lagann and Haruhi here, but I don't think they really "define" this decade, because Gurren Lagann seems to have become less popular after it was finished, and Haruhi because it's not appealing to the "casual" anime fan.

Death Note is something I would say, for sure. It's quite easy to follow, there are unique characters and it's full of suspense.
Fullmetal Alchemist has great characters and a wonderful storyline, a title having a big fanbase. I would dare say this is the "Cowboy Bebop" of this decade, but that's just me.

Elfen Lied is very popular in Germany, I don't know how it is overseas. I would say it is important, it's very unique and could probably (Haven't tried yet) appeal to more casual anime watchers, too. (If they can get past the first few episodes...)
Princess Mononoke is very popular in Germany, too, one of the few titles that you can actually see on TV. A very, very important peace, at least here Wink

Naruto. That explains itself.
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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:20 am Reply with quote
ShadowTrader wrote:
Well since the decade isn't over yet we can't jump to conclusions but I'll give you my opinion anyway.
I think its better to pick the best from one genre, and all the ones here are all series with maturing ratings, so it's definitely biased.
Action
Black Lagoon This one beat out Ghost in the Shell in my opinion just by a slim margin, but the reason is just because it was less sci-fi and I could relate to the characters more, thus the plot was more intriguing.

Romance
Rumbling Hearts
This one just leaves a deep mark on your soul, and makes you hope you never have to be in that kind of love triangle. The strength was in the depth of the character development and the exploration of the human psyche. All emotions were explored here, including sadness, loneliness, passion, anxiety, fear, love, etc. which made for one intriguing story.

Psychological
Monster I thought Death Note was number one in this category but that was until I watched this series. 74 episodes don't do it justice, the suspense was just killer, and it could of easily went on for another 100. Not a single episode was wasted, and every plot point led to another mystery and more suspense. I think my lung capacity increased after having to hold my breath so many times.

Movie
5 Centimeters Per Second I felt I had to include a movie here, and this one doesn't disappoint, well spoiler[ the ending does], but thats another story. Truly a masterpiece of story telling and art work. It was heart wrenching to say the least and really made me look at my life.

Thats all I got this for this decade I know I left out a lot of genres but there weren't many other masterpieces...


No offense but for some of those nominations though they are great Anime I wouldn't really consider them decade defining. I mean if you take a look at the list of Anime I have mentioned a lot of those series/movies feature some of the biggest Icons in Anime: EVA 01, Vash, Goku, The Gundam, Lupin II, Ranma, Spike Spiegel, Kenshin and etc. Many also feature some of the most notable names in Anime: Go Nagai, Hideaki Anno, Miyazaki Hayao, Yoshiyuki Tomino just to name a few.

From the Anime of this decade there are too few Anime in my mind that have had quite the same impact. For the mentions of DeathNote and Haruhi I held back mentioning those mainly because they are 2 of the more recent Anime (both being aired in the last 2 years, with Haruhi having a 2nd season airing this year I believe).

However with the mention of Fullmetal Alchemist I will have to agree with it being a possible decade definer. Its popularity is still huge among the Anime community even 5 years after its intial airing. In fact on this site it is listed as the most viewed anime with over 10 000 views. With One Piece and Naruto I'd say One Piece has the overall advantage due to the fact its basically a cultural phenom in Japan. As for anime with similar qualities I'd say Yu-Gi-Oh! is a really good nomination as a decade definer. The huge impact it has had in its marketing here is proof of that in my mind.

Regardless I doubt that the quality of the series plays a small role in giving an anime the title of "decade definer". Examples being the sleeper hits of Akagi and Baccano. Here we have two very execellent series that are masterpieces at what they do yet they are lost in the frenzy of hyped up series.

A series that I'd say comes close is the anime Kanon (2002) and not the more recent one Kanon 2006. It has a large fanbase and I guess it was big enough to give it a facelift in its 2006 adaptation. However regardless I can only speak from experience when dealing with fans of the series as I have only viewed episode 1 of the 2002 version.

Another anime that I think could receive that title is FLCL. By far being one of the wackiest Anime ever it has its place in the Anime world as being "different" and "ground breaking" at least in my opinion.

Others of possible consideration are:

Samurai Champloo - Same creator as Cowboy Bebop, its style of music (hip hop) and its outlandish historical accuracy. What holds it back? Its lack of depth.

Azumanga Daioh - One of the top comedies of the decade though what holds it back is it takes a certain taste of comedy to enjoy it.

Fruits Basket - One of the most popular series (among both genders I'm assuming of course) with a large fanbase. What holds it back? Incomplete

Love Hina - Basically is the base for any harem series since its initial release.

Inu Yasha - Long running series by the same creator of Maison Ikoku and Ranma 1/2. What holds it back? Virtually the fact that its incomplete.

Bleach - Long running series, its marketability and appeal to a large audience. Whats holding it back? Competes with One Piece and Naruto.

There are a ton of anime I'd want to consider being decade definers such as Honey & Clover, Hunter X Hunter and Nodame Cantabile yet I don't think they have what the decade definers of the 90s, 80s and so on had. It is among the best works of Gainax both in style and substance and is among the well known Anime here in America if not by viewership but by reputation.

<Edit> Thanks for the compliment Abunai.
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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:37 am Reply with quote
Some one has mentioned FMA as a defining series for this decade and I quite agree with that statement.

But, imo, a defining series for the '90s was Sailor Moon. It restarted the Magical Girl genre. It was copied (Watch Wedding Peach and you'll see what I mean). And it has lasted...even if Toei are being a******s about the license.
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