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Joe Mello
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I have no desire to watch this show but I'm bored enough at work to be fascinated by a potential attempt at cunning linguistics. Is "ehlsea" pronounced like they're saying the letters "L-C"? If so, my brain is thinking spoiler[it's a morphed form of something like "life couple" or similar] and that's a neat little embellishment.
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Terraziel
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At this point the only thing to the shows credit is Episode 0 having a Cordwainer Smith reference, we don't get enough of those. Though in that regard i suppose the marriage side of things also has the whiff of Heinlein.
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turtle79
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(this comment was needlessly cranky but I can't delete it outright, it seems, so you get this instead! sorry!)
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MFrontier
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I don't know why everyone keeps jumping to "incest" with Akira and Towasa's relationship when they're basically just childhood friends who ended up living together which I feel like I've seen a bunch of in romances (Cough)True Tears(Cough). But I guess I was also sold on their relationship from episode 0, so some bias there. I don't see it any differently from Taiyo and Mutsumi in Yozakura Family.
I'm personally enjoying the show although I can see the argument that it tonally shifts so much that it doesn't really seem to know what kind of show it wants to be. One minute it's a post-apocalyptic sci-fi dystopia where the android Heroine is brutally and efficiently killing people en masse, the next it's turning into a bit of a romcom with really goofy villains. Oh and let's throw in a mafia family plot that has actual incest involved. About the only thing consistent is fanservice and waifu's. But maybe the ultimate goal of the show is to explore the concept of family and romance in a post-apocalyptic setting and the many ways it can come about. I can at least see some consistency in that. I also can't help but be intrigued by Yugure who is like Yui Ishikawa playing Violet Evergarden again if she was more aggressive in romance and not at all stoic...and wore a miniskirt with panty shots. (Did Towasa intentionally design all the androids with her face to not wear pants or was that out of her hand? They do have great legs though) |
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pi8you
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Yeah, ehlsea comes from something in the series' pre-apocalypse world starting with LC. The show's a hot mess, and the villains are too cartoonish in particular for me, but I'll take a good looking PA Works original over a lot of other stuff on the table, especially in a season like this. That said, my favorite moment of hot mess is dad telling his daughter in ep0 that no, no, it's totally fine for you to have romantic feelings for this boy we've been raising as our own son/brother for 10+ years, we never formally adopted him. |
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MFrontier
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She knew him before then, though, since they were childhood friends. Though it was kind of funny how Towasa also needed her AI buddy (who may or may not not be Yugure) to also tell her that a relationship with Akira was not incest. |
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njprogfan
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Count me as one who voted for this because I'm loving the visuals and I don't know where it's going but I'm intrigued, simple as that.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Wizardizar
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Yeah I dropped this after episode 1 and didn't vote for it, but still curious to see if it gets better. Then maybe I'll pick it back up.
As far as the incest goes, it'd be hypocritical of me to criticize it too much considering how much I love the insane twist in Ave Mujica. That being said, they sure spent a lot of time reassuring Akira and Towasa (and the audience) that this isn't incest, so they know they are playing close to the fire. Incest aside, I just think those two suck so I don't really care about their romance either way. |
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InfiniteNothingness
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Well, I'm not really one to raise a stink over objectionable elements that'd be objectionable in real life with my cartoons, in and of themselves, so the answer there is "because it's a hot mess," and the particular strain of which has been compelling enough in itself to keep me hooked minute-to-minute (although I'm also watching some nonsensical garbage this season, so no accounting for taste). What I am happy to raise a stink over is how weirdly judgmental Akira is, alongside being strangely kind of... insufferable? Just kind of obnoxious? Just as a person. Truly, the points of interest in this weird show abound.
One can hope. I sure do.
Okay, finally I see someone mention the actual elephant in the room (as far as I'm concerned the not-actually-incest says your android helper!, and oddly-executed half-sibling yearning is much more so the wallpapers and carpet). Even if, let's say, I took every bit of this without an ounce of cynicism, partly from being an anime fan for well over a decade: Those pantyshots and weird thigh focuses, which I do not even need to pause and pore through frames over to recognize instantly, just because of how the cuts are made, is so oddly incongruous with this generally self-serious, post-apocalyptic drama, where our leads are uncovering the dark truths behind this Orwellian regime. I guess what I'm saying is, what I've read of Vampire Dormitory has already went some strange places all while being weird and serious and kind of silly, yet I've had no trouble taking that odd piece for what it is. And yeah, same Wizardizar. I just wasn't sold on them as a couple as well. Felt pretty rote, to say the least. |
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MFrontier
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I think it's kind of a necessity that we need a straightforward protagonist to contrast with how much the world has changed and to oppose a totalitarian regime in OWEL. Akira's not my favorite protagonist but I at least understand where they're going with him.
It feels on-brand for a show that subtly implied a girl masturbated to her crush in episode 0.
Vampire Dormitory mention! The gayest straight show I ever watched! |
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Hellsoldier
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I count as a member of three camps: The ones who enjoyed the twist in Ave Mujica (or just about all of the twists in Ave Mujica), the ones who voted because they are enjoying the show, and the ones who voted because they wanted to see the reaction of a reviewer reviewing a show based on the premise of step-siblings in love. With that said, I'm enjoying this less and less as time passes by. The setting is underexplored, our protagonists aren't all that engaging, and I sense a bit of prejudice from Akira (characters with prejudices can be engaging, but he may be prejudiced and not all that engaging). Of course, this might be a matter of culture shock rather than a prejudiced reaction when he witnessed that elshea-ing. And the villains look like caricatures of gay people. Will have to see where this one goes. |
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Wizardizar
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Thinking back on it, it's also weirdly out of character for a P.A. Works show. They don't usually dabble in fan service like that. Even their cheerleaders show was pretty chaste in comparison. |
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EmeraldSaucer
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Personally voted for this because I want to see how a reviewer approaches the complete tonal whiplash the show seems to exhibit from most angles. The show wants to be mildly post-apocalyptic, but quickly discards those trappings as we move onto a socialite meet-and-greet featuring a mafia family. One episode has Yugure brutally murder soldiers as she bisects and melts them by the dozen, but then in another episode she harmlessly swats them away and leaves an enemy commander stuck in a toilet. And given we've already broached numerous thorny subjects like the proliferation of AI, totalitarian regimes, and slavery, there are countless ways the show could fall flat on its face with these going forward
Because I don't think the show really knows what it wants to do besides look pretty (best exemplified IMO by the ED, where you would think Amoru was our viewpoint character and Akira was some friend side character) |
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Shiremage
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They were childhood friends and he was taken in by her father as a foster child. I see no way to describe anything as incest in their relationship. I have to believe that people are just reading that into the story and not listening to the story or reading the subtitles. The only part I have issues with is the "200 years" since he was put into suspended animation. The damage and overgrowth and changes to society would take much greater time than that. The dynamics of the society and survival would lend itself to large faminly groups for labor, security, creating future workers. As we have seen all ot the androids so far look like Towasa. I am interested in finding out more about the characters in OWEL and how they relate to the mafia types. The only other issue I had was when she rescued him from the OWEL base that she didn't lay waste to it and the soldiers there. Is it perfect? No but lots of potential I think.
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