Forum - View topicNEWS: 18 Arrested in Japan for Uploading via Share Program
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mglittlerobin
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Digital piracy debate incoming! *Snags popcorn* Why don't they just give up already? You'd think with all the other arrests Japanese users would quit uploading.
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Iritscen
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*tries to muster sympathy for the arrested, fails*
Well, I bet I'm not the only one who finds the list interesting as a demographic sampler (what sort of person uploads which sort of show). The more mature shows seem to belong to the older uploaders. #8 is is a sad case, though. I hope he's happy with himself. He's 42 and he uploaded Wii Party and SD Gundam. |
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Metanomaly
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And Americans think they have it tough because they can get sued for copyright infringement!
I dunno, my friend. SD Gundam is pretty awesome. 
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LordRobin
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I'll say this for Japanese uploaders: they're either very, very courageous, or very, very stupid. Winny was cracked, Share was cracked, Perfect Dark looks to be cracked, and yet they keep uploading.
I'm used to this cat-and-mouse game running in the other direction, with DRM authors trying to create the perfect file protection and file-sharers quickly hacking each new scheme. And yet this same type of individual, who understands that there's no such thing as unbreakable security, seems to think those rules doesn't apply when the digital information you're trying to protect is your own privacy. It's not going to work. I really hope people sharing files in Japan are doing so for ideological reasons, not because they actually believe that, this time, the security is rock-solid and no one will ever catch them. ------RM |
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configspace
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you have to upload in order to download at any decent rate. They were probably sharing a whole cache of stuff but were only tracked with those listed. I myself can't muster sympathy for the other side--law enforcement or companies pursuing this route. It's not like they're going to improve business one bit even if they literally arrested everyone. There are 100's of new anime shows a year. Ya think most people can even afford a tiny fraction of that at $500 to $1000 a pop? (especially considering living of unemployment like a few of these guys; and those who are employed also get paid significantly less than their american counterparts; heck animators are a part of that poor bunch as well) PVRs can't help either due to severe restrictions. It's no wonder why most shows--moe included--loose money. Like I've mentioned before, the difference in sales between the best sellers--only a handful--and the rest of those 100s is staggering. Only some can compensate with merchandise, since it's quite obvious that more people can afford spending $50 instead of $500+. In fact this situation is the reverse with manga precisely because it's so cheap and available, particularly for the more common thick serialized manga "magazine" format. |
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bayoab
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ZODDGUTS
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The Japanese are behind the times. It's time for them to start using IRC! |
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Metanomaly
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IRC is simply overlooked/not high volume enough at the moment. It's trivial to track accounts/people/machines on IRC, since IRC's intent is not obfuscation. |
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edzieba
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vashna
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Have any arrests actually been made based on the downloaders though, since the law changed?
That being said, going after the sources seems to make more sense to me. |
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ConanSan
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Ignoring the debate incoming (Yes to buying stuff, no to companies being lazy/xenophobic and not willing to take my money thus pushing me in the direction of el torento), these guys got what was coming to them for not keeping up.
Not advocating what they're doing, but sheesh, don't run into the fire when you're doused in petrol. |
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mudduck454
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think about it, they grabbed 18 people out of thousands who use perfect dark and share, so this is really an insignificant amount of arrests, when they say they have arrested hundreds upon hundreds of people, at one time, then I might stand up and say wow, until then, I will just read it as a few people who were caught by being stupid, those people might have also been caught by being dumb about what they say in public forums,
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nhat
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I'm surprise no rage posts about illegal sharing.
Again to reiterate the reason for the arrests because someone didn't read the article or make false assumptions. The people got arrested for UPLOADING not downloading. |
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bayoab
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Based on previous arrests, these are almost all initial uploaders who have trips. They are part of the <5% that introduce things into the cloud. This is a massive dent to the usability of the program. |
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Metanomaly
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Which is really the way this needs to be addressed. There's thousands and thousands of downloaders, but a relatively small number of uploaders. Slap uploaders, even a small number, publicly, harshly and frequently enough, people start to think think twice. Of course, there's always going to be the rebels who "on principle" rip/share/upload copyrighted works because they think all information should be free, but they're the minority. The majority of folks who engage in copyright infringement do it because 1) downloading/uploading requires relatively little technical competence to get what they're looking for, 2) the downloaders are to cheap to pay for something they feel they're entitled to and 3) the uploaders are looking for reputation in their scenes. It's not about stopping all of them. It's about stopping most of them (and the most egregious infringers). |
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