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Maclam



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:27 am Reply with quote
Hi everyone i hope this is not against the rules or anything but... anyway i've watched a few episode of Destiny... and i really enjoyed it so far.

But i was just curious if i'm the only one out there that really really dislike Shinn who is suppose to be the main character?

To tell the truth... Kira Yamato from gundam seed had me much more attached...I really like Kira's personnality, his forte and his weakness... how he struggled through the wars in Seed...

As for Shinn... although he looks a lot like Kira... this guys has some serious anger management issues... I mean as far as i got through the serie... he hasn't once stop to complain or crap all over everyone else...spoiler[I do understand how he feels about his entire family beeing killed in the war and all]... but what i can't stand about this guy especially is that he seeem to think he's the only one to suffer... talk about being an selfish idiot.

Athrun Zala... goshh this guy really needs to rethink his life...Man after 50 episode of Seed and and even now in Destiny he still doesn't know what the hell he should be doing...He has great abilities, he's smart and an excellent pilot and all...but i think he forgot his brain at home...This guy really remind me of Shinji from Eva sometime i swear!!


Ok now... i would like some opinion from you guys which of those 3 pilots you guys prefer...and for which reasons??


As for me, Kira is the man!!
He's Extremely Kind, smart and probably the BEST pilot out there... i would really like to see Kira beat the crap out of Shinn one day Smile

And another reason... although Kira is a coordinator and has exceptionnal skills and intelligence... he was especially weak emotionnaly... ant that's what got me so attached to him...HE IS HUMAN.
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CrimsonPh33r



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:46 pm Reply with quote
I really dont understand all you people saying Shinn is the main character. It's not cause the series started with him that he is the main character. It is obvious that out of the three, Kira is the only one with any knowledge of what he is doing.
Shinn reminds me of Flay in GS: pissed off and has no idea what he is doing. spoiler[Shooting Cagalli in the middle of her speech was just spasticated. I hope Athrun smacks him again]
As for Athrun, well, he thinks he knows what he is doing, but of course he is being manipulated by Dullindal.
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RoByte



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:43 pm Reply with quote
CrimsonPh33r wrote:
I really don't understand all you people saying Shinn is the main character.


Look at the cast list at the end of an episode.

Destiny should be a new show with a new cast. Not "The Adventures of Kira and the Archangel Part II."
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 7:56 pm Reply with quote
CrimsonPh33r wrote:
I really don't understand all you people saying Shinn is the main character.


That's sort of what happens when initial press releases for the series identify him as such.

CrimsonPh33r wrote:
It is obvious that out of the three, Kira is the only one with any knowledge of what he is doing.


Char knew more about what he was doing than Kamille did, but that didn't make Char the central focus of Zeta Gundam. A character that already knows themselves and what they seek to strive makes for a rather uninteresting lead in the majority of cases. A truly effective lead doesn't fully know what they want, and are forced to find the answer by the events of the series. They grow and change, and as a result make us interested in seeing more of them. Shinn's doing that, and would've been able to do a lot more of it by now had the series' writing been a little smoother up until this point. Kira's type of character works best as a supporting character that further's the lead's development through some form of significant interaction, and not the other way around.
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El Capitano



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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:28 am Reply with quote
I don't like him either, but he still makes a great protagonist.
First of all, his actions and personality evoke a lot of emotional reactions amongst the viewers.
Second, the character's personality leaves much room for improvement and development.

Now, when I take a look at those conditions, I am to conclude that there are two characters who take over the role of Kira: Shinn and Athrun.
I know the latter was already a protagonist in Seed but his part in the story has become much more important than in the original series.


Anyway, though many of the fans love or hate Shinn, he's still going to cause one hell of a surprise. Surprised Very Happy


my two cents;)
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Maclam



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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:46 am Reply with quote
Yes i have to give you that Shinn character still have lots of room for development and improvment and all... and that probably what those gundam realisator have in mind Smile

But so far in this serie he did piss the hell out of me... and i'll also give you that he sure had an impression on me although it's a negative one Smile but i guess we'll have to wait and see

As for Athrun, no matter how hard i tried to understand or even like this guy...i cant... he's such an air head!

Kira for various reason i already explained... he is my favorite char in this whole serie and his relationship with Lacus is so darling!! Smile

Well to tell the truth beside Kira i never really appreciate any other gundam pilot... well beside Zeck marquise from wings of course Smile
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Super Arrow



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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:56 am Reply with quote
You'll be glad to know that Kira steals the Show sometime during the mid-20s Episodes...

Maclam wrote:
He's Extremely Kind, smart and probably the BEST pilot out there...


ROFLcopter!

Maclam wrote:
Well to tell the truth beside Kira i never really appreciate any other gundam pilot... well beside Zeck marquise from wings of course


*wonders if you've seen any other Gundam Series*
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Maclam



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:59 am Reply with quote
well i use to hate mecha anime... till i watch FMP then i tried that gundam seed a few months ago...i liked those 2 serie so much that i decide to watch The wings serie... but i should have watch that one first, maybe i would have appreciate it a little more.

After i've watch Seed and then come back to wings... somehow the serie just seem a little dull to me... it was good buyt not as good as seed Smile

Right i'm buying FMP fuumoffu as they release it here in montreal... only the first DVD is available Sad
I'll have to wait till july to get the second DVD
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Super Arrow



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:01 am Reply with quote
Congratulations, you've now seen the worst Gundam stuff that isn't Live-Action.

Go watch the Original Movie Trilogy and come back with a better state of mind.
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:56 pm Reply with quote
Super Arrow wrote:
Congratulations, you've now seen the worst Gundam stuff that isn't Live-Action.

Go watch the Original Movie Trilogy and come back with a better state of mind.


Because the UC fandom doesn't have a bad enough time with its reputation for raging elitist jackassery. Rolling Eyes I mean, part of me agrees with you (well, as far as Wing and the old-school stuff go at least), but damn, way to be a complete and utter jerk about it.
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:37 pm Reply with quote
Super Arrow wrote:
Congratulations, you've now seen the worst Gundam stuff that isn't Live-Action.

Go watch the Original Movie Trilogy and come back with a better state of mind.


This isn't the Madman Ent. forums, so don't post shit like this here please. We already have our fill of elitism, don't add to the pile please?
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Super Arrow



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:44 am Reply with quote
I'm not elitist, I just have taste.

And I like the part where people are stereotyped as UC Fanboys just because they diss its pale imitations.



Now THAT's how a Gundam Series is done...and of course, it was Cancelled. Great logic, TV Asahi!
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:58 am Reply with quote
Super Arrow wrote:
I'm not elitist, I just have taste.

And I like the part where people are stereotyped as UC Fanboys just because they diss its pale imitations.



Now THAT's how a Gundam Series is done...and of course, it was Cancelled. Great logic, TV Asahi!


No, seriously, packup the elitist attitude (which is only further accented by the whole OMG NO I JUST HAVE TASTE shit), we don't want it here. Go dawdle your OMG UC GUNDAM Anime smile jerkoffs with Stormo and the rest of the twats at Madman.
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Terrywong



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:03 am Reply with quote
u no what u should do with that Gundam DX u should buy sum gundam marker to mark the line out it look much better


i think kira going to get his new freedom in Esp.35 like GS i don't kind of like shinn this char he has a problem with everything (he is an idiot as far as i think) and athrun is jkust grtting stupid he should no better what cagillal like he been with her for a whole year man he is dumb Exclamation
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:14 pm Reply with quote
Terrywong wrote:
man he is dumb Exclamation


Wow, I could swear you were talking about yourself here.
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