Forum - View topicWhat is wrong with Shonen Jump and Viz?
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Josh7289
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Instead of licensing new series for the magazine, why don't they just increase production of their current manga to at least four chapters per month to make it kind of weekly, or better yet, just make the magazine weekly or biweekly? I'll have to resubscribe by years end, but if they drop some of the other manga in the magazine now, I just may not feel a reason to pay them anymore. Why pour money into something if the maker of it will just drop it and leave me cold?
Beyond that, I'm also getting bored with the slow releases of the chapters, and that is going to hurt Viz in the long run. The Naruto anime is about to pass the manga in its story soon, and once that happens, why will the majority of fans buy the manga anymore? Viz is simply not handling this correctly, and they will lose sales as a result. |
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DuelLadyS
 Posts: 1705 Location: WA state |
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No, I think Viz is doing just fine. I remember getting tired of buying Animerica Extra back when it was still around- why? Becuase it was the same old titles, over and over and over again. I only liked a couple, and it seemed like such a waste to spend $5 a month on 30-40 pages of manga I cared about. I'm happy Viz is wiggiling things around... I never liked DBZ to begin with, and the Yugioh Millienium World stuff is really starting to bore me, I'll be happy when it goes. I feel the need to point out that these and Sandland, which ran in its entirety, are only titles that were dropped/are going to be dropped from the lineup- not much for a 'zine that's been in print for over 3 years. You don't even get deprived of the full manga run, either- you simply have to buy graphic novels- which are a far more cost-effective way to collect a favorite series, not to mention being easier to read/transport/store. That's my take on it, anyway. |
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Josh7289
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At the rate Viz is currently publishing the manga serialized in SJ, most series will not be completed for years from now, maybe even five or more. Why can't they simply increase production or make the magazine weekly, or at least biweekly. Bringing up Naruto again, I'm sure they have more than enough money to translate more chapters of each of their manga now.
And about the graphic novels, I do not collect those. I use Shonen Jump magazine as my way of reading all of the titles serialized in its pages, so if a series moves to graphic novel only, I simply stop reading it. It's more expensive. |
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marie-antoinette
 Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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There's probably not enough demand for the magazine to justify having it be anything more than monthly OR to increase the size.
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Webki
 Posts: 299 Location: Albany, NY |
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I don't think the Naruto anime will "pass" the manga. I'm pretty sure the anime is based upon the manga, and the episodes airing now are just filler. Then again, I only read the manga, I've never seen the anime.
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Aromatic Grass
 Posts: 2424 Location: Raleigh, NC |
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The current episodes are NOT fillers, that is, if you're speaking of the American broadcast. (The only real "fillers" start later with a small filler in season five and the majority in season six and so on.) As for "passing" the anime, Vol. 10 ended just about where the second season ends. Didn't CN only claim only 52 episodes to start, or have they finally bought some more? If the latter is true, the anime will surely pass the manga--that's why there are fillers in Japan. |
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DuelLadyS
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Then I'm afraid you're probably not finishing any series. I highly doubt Viz will run any of their current manga through to the end- at best, they'll remove several graphic novels of story arc to jump ahead to the ending. I suggest you starting looking for discount manga. 
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Josh7289
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Then WTF is the point of Shonen Jump? 
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The Naked Beast
 Posts: 1028 Location: A Blue Planet |
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Even though our country's population is roughly three times the size of Japan, it does not mean a majority of our country reads manga. The last time I checked, 40% of published materials in Japan comes from manga. In Japan, everyone reads manga. It is a way of life for them. Everyone from elementary school kids to a salary man reads manga. It is true that there is not enough demand for Shonen Jump here unlike Japan. Their Jump is two maybe even three times the size of ours. They call it Weekly Jump since it comes out weekly. Imagine the stress on authors to come up with a chapter every week. You talk about increasing production. That would be nice except there are not enough specialty stores in this country for that. In Japan, they have their own "manga" district you can say. If you have read and/or seen Genshiken, the group always makes at least one trip to Akihabara to buy their stuff in a volume or episode. Face it, we live in a country where manga is slightly something new. Most of the time I go to a bookstore to buy my manga. But remember a bookstore sells books primarily like my aforementioned The Da Vinci Code. Occasionally I go to comic store since they have better selection. The comic store primarily sell American comics first hence the name comic store. I would assume that not even a third of our country has even read or heard of manga. There is just not enough demand here. Viz, Tokyopop, Del Rey Manga, Darkhorse Comics, and other manga companies here market specially to readers of manga primarily but that says a lot. The only you can do is wait and see what happens. It is terrible that Viz will never finish some series as they drop it along the way. Viz almost always puts Shonen Jump titles before other great stuff. Great titles like No. 5 will never be completed since Viz knows that Shonen Jump titles will sell. Once Viz sees that something is not selling well they might as well stop there and go get something that will sell. The world of business is something is a lot more complicated then it should be. *Edit- Spelling errors |
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alice20th
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There may be no point left for you to buy the magazine, but that doesn't mean there is no point to the magazine at all. Like in Japan, the magazine is a way for readers to cheaply sample a number of different series to see what they enjoy. Some readers in Japan keep on reading the magazine, and others stop in order to buy the tankobon only. You've gotten to the tankobon only stage. That's no reason to rag on the magazine. It's still doing the same thing it was doing when you were enthusiastic about it -- only it's doing it for newcomers. |
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I_AM_L
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I have evry issue of SJ except 0, and I too wish they would make it so they had more chapters. back when they had 3 chapters of everything a month, it was HUGE. It probably costed them too much money. I'm just mad about Bo-BoBo and Jojo's Bizarre adventure. Plus all their editing.
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Josh7289
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But graphic novel only is so expensive and slow that I can't afford to keep up with all the series.
I'm always hearing this stuff about editing. Is this only in the magazine or also in the graphic novels? Could you show me some examples of this? |
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GoodLuckSaturday
 Posts: 567 Location: Indiana |
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It's very overblown. As for the Shonen Jump line, Viz censored out nipples in I"s, a middle finger in Naruto, Popo's lips in Dragon Ball, and two cigarettes; one in Hikaru no Go and the other in The Prince of Tennis. None of these edits alter the story in any way, and most of them are of one or two panels. When middle fingers, considerably course language, and underage smoking got through on Eyeshield 21, I stopped caring. |
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Wolverine Princess
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And in their Shojo line, the only thing I remember hearing about being censored is some guy's head being erased in a scene in volume four of Descendants of Darkness when he was giving some other guy a BJ. From what I've heard, it apparently just looks like the guy is pleasing himself, so I don't think the fangirls got too upset. And someone's nipple was censored in Midori Days volume eight. Are there any other edits to the shojo and action lines that I don't know about? |
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Mr.Roboto
 Posts: 105 Location: USA |
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