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ElementSun
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the style of execution for combat scenes greatly vary. Some of the most cliched ones are the prolonged preparation for a few attacks and the cycling a repeated image as a filler. Additionally, some fight scenes seem to lack consistent flow, where sometimes the character's actions seem a little sluggish and unnatural at certain points.
Which anime series do you think has the most fluidly choreographed fight scenes? Personally, I love the fighting style of Samurai Champloo, because it's always fast and always at the same pace too. Also, the entire fights themselves are unique and don't contain too much repetition. |
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Xenofan 29A
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The scene where Bach's Air plays in End of Evangelion, in which Unit-02 fights the other Eva Units. It's fluid, it's perfectly timed, and intricately detailed. Mitsuo Iso, who largely animated the sequence, also did the first part of the scene in Ghost in the Shell (the 1995 movie) where Makoto fights the tank. Likewise, that is an excellently fluid scene, down to her reloading of weapons.
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Westlo
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There are not many fight scenes that occur in Seirei No Moribito but the ones that have happened are among some of the most fluid to ever be in a tv series. The spearfighting of Balsa is amazing to watch, episode 3 features two future classic fight sequences.
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blind_assassin
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High budget Naruto episodes are excellent examples of well done fights. Most recently in Shippuuden the 10 vs. 100 fight with Chiyo and Sakura vs. Sasori was amazing. I was watching it and when they started to kick ass I almost shat my pants. It might drag it feet a lot but when Naruto is good it's actually amazing.
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ultrapostman
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I love some of the fights in Full Metal Alchemist. One of the best ones I can think of would be spoiler[Ed versus Greed. It was amazing to watch because I had no idea how Ed would kill Greed, but then he showed how he could transmute Greed's body. It's too bad that it was kinda short (no pun intended)].
Also, the spoiler[Naruto versus Sasuke] fight from Naruto had it's moments, but it was a bit too long with way too much flashbacking. |
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Key
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In terms of movement and fluidity, the best fight scenes I have seen recently have been the swordfighting scenes in Le Chevalier d'Eon. Fluid, no shortcuts, and they concentrate especially on the footwork, which it's my understanding is crucial to fencing.
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Hisdon
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oh man, so many shows with absolutely amazing fight scenes.
I'd have to put Noein within the list for sure. Even though the animation was a little bit more choppy, it doesn't take away from the fights at all. They were simply jaw dropping - especially the quality of the 3D robot things for an anime. Both Samurai Chomploo and Cowboy Bebop had some very fluid scenes as well. Then again, they came from the same producers, so this is only expected. 
FLCL fights were top quality too. The one where Haruka fights the gunslinger looking robot while riding on her guitar was amazing xD more for later |
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Xenofan 29A
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I think the storyboarding for that sequence was Hiroyuki Imaishi's work. He's done some great work for GAINAX these past few years. Speaking of GAINAX, I'll have to mention the fights in Top wo Nerae 2, which, once again, had smooth animation without looping or many stills. Despite my mixed feelings about the series, I'll have to admit that Noir's fight scenes were spectacular. Well choreographed and lavishly produced, especially for a cel-based TV anime. |
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jetz
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I was gonna say Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop too. In Samurai Champloo, Mugen's fighting style mixed with Breakdancing is some eye candy, and Spike's Jeet Kune Do caught my eye right away when I first watched Cowboy Bebop.
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ChronoBall X
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I liked almost every single fight scene in Yu Yu Hakusho because every fight scene has well planned strategy with tough situations with always a way to win
for example, I liked Yusuke Uremeshi's final fight with Younget Toguro Otto in the final round of the Dark Tournement
another one of my fav most dramatic fights would have to be the final Match between Mantaro Kid Muscle and Kevin Mask in the final 5 episodes of Ultimate Muscle which lasted a good 5 episodes which involved alot of strategy. and most importantly,any fight scenes in Chrono Crusade are very top of the notch because of Gonzo's high quality animation they produce in they're animes like Chrono's final assault on Aion.[/b] Last edited by ChronoBall X on Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:57 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Cloe
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I'm totally going to agree on this one. The bulk of the fighting scenes (or, at least the best ones, IMO) were all key-animated by Kazuto Nakazawa, a renowned animator and director of the brilliant short film Comedy. For those unfamiliar with his work, there's a nice little reel of Nakazawa's animation in Samurai Champloo here. He's definitely one of the great action/fight scene animators. I agree with the person who mentioned Naruto, too. Norio Matsumoto's fight animation for the series is excellent. Another example that springs immediately to mind is Ryo-timo's excellent key animation for the fight scene in episode 12 of Noein. It's animated superbly and the volume 3 Noein DVD actually has a nice bonus feature that allows you to watch the animation keyframes by themselves. It's very impressive work. And, of course, no fight scene thread would be complete without a mention of Mitsuo Iso's phenomenal animation on Asuka vs the white Evas in End of Evangelion. The timing and movement of this scene epitomizes the very best of action keyframe animation. A tip for animation lovers: if you run a YouTube search for "sakuga" or "sakuga MAD," you'll be treated to an amazing feast for the eyes. Sakuga anime lovers appreciate the hard-working keyframe animators that bring to life the highest quality animation in Japan. Here is but one example (which includes many of the examples people have listed so far, actually--look at the description for the list of animators and series): anime sakuga. |
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Keonyn
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Depends on if you include movies with it or just series. First one that came to my mind was the Cowboy Bebop movie, either in the train or on the tower. Those fights always impressed me, the angles, the fluid movements and range of styles used.
On top of that I'd have to mention the recent Appleseed film as well. Even though those fights relied so much on guns and such they were still well detailed and animated. Of course there's Princess Mononoke which had no shortage of detailed and fluid fight scenes. Even Steamboy deserves a mention for the scene near the boiler when he goes against that crane. Not just for the detail and fluidity but for the uniqueness of the scene altogether. Taking away movies, which are generally better due to larger budgets, I'd have to agree with the nominations of Samurai Champloo. The scenes were fast, fluid and fairly diverse. I'd also nominate Escaflowne; while its fight scenes don't compare by todays standards they were quite impressive for that time. Not just in how they were animated but the impact of those scenes. Unlike a lot of other shows you really got a sense of what was at stake in those fights. |
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BrothersElric
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I'm gonna stick my neck out a little here and mention DBZ. I mean, by today's standards, yeah, not so great, but for it's time the fight sequences must have been just amazing. I mean, I'd say it has some of the most intense, action packed, edge of your seat fight sequences. You get stuff like moving incredibly fast, battles in the air, devastating blows to each other that shake the earth, enough energy exploding from the body that annihilates the environment around you, you know, stuff like that.
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Eruanna
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Darker then Black has some reeaaally nice fluid motions. In fact the entire anime is animated with such brilliant fluidity. Even just watching the characters eat is fascinating. This series has some of my favourite fighting scenes.
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Murasakisuishou
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Wow, no love for the spoiler[Yuki/Ryoko] fight in The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya? The animation in the whole show was top notch, but that fight scene had me drooling. The fight itself didn't involve all that much 'contact', but I thought it was very smooth the way they showed the girls spoiler[manipulating the data of the classroom].
I would also like to second Appleseed. The first scene in particular spoiler[(where Deunan gets attacked in the bombed out city)] was very well choreographed, with the Matrix knockoffs in all the right places. I can't wait to see what they come up with in the sequel. Oh yes, and pretty much any fight scene in GitS: SAC involving the Major and hand-to-hand combat. Not only is the animation of the actual fight smooth and fluid, but the frame moves up and down as if the viewer were truly in the room watching, or if the whole thing was being shot with a camcorder. I particularly enjoyed the scene where spoiler[Motoko is fighting all the copies of the South American revolutionary], and then the scene spoiler[near the end of the first season where she's fighting the two landm- ah, I mean "armed suits" in the hotel lobby. ] |
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