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Chester McCool



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:36 pm Reply with quote
Weird how people seem so focused on Russia, not the report itself. This kind of thinking is everywhere. BBC thinks anime causes pedophilia, Americans think anime causes sexism, violence, and Nazism. Every country has ignorant people.
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Grizloy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:53 pm Reply with quote
Not sure what is so "russian propagandic" about this post - it's just another one of the many Roskomnadzor's idiocies. Every country has their share of idiots in government, and by listening to all that crazy bullshit they are screaming is just harmful for your sanity. It's not like there will be any real consequences to these statements.
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ChrissyC



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:58 pm Reply with quote
Things are highly specific to the individual, a case of correlation.
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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:22 pm Reply with quote
gacha wrote:
There's no russian propaganda here, it's just a bunch random silly people running their mouths who are always ridiculed by their folks back in Russia, every country has a few of those. I'm always amazed just how far the mostly baseless anti-russia propaganda has come, the most suggestible people become a literal walking prejudice, some things never change.


It's the Russian version of Japan's "Anime causes pedophilia and hikkikomori!", only more creative in the distinct Russian style. A country that has never embraced subtlety.

But then, Russia and Japan have never been able to agree on anything, let alone Why Anime Must Be Socially Cleansed For the Public Good.
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TheAnimeRevolutionizer



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:49 pm Reply with quote
Chester McCool wrote:
Weird how people seem so focused on Russia, not the report itself. This kind of thinking is everywhere. BBC thinks anime causes pedophilia, Americans think anime causes sexism, violence, and Nazism. Every country has ignorant people.


Hey world, you want a 1990s styled throwback of societal rebellion through popular media and expression?

Because this way of thinking that x specifically causes y fuels that kind societal rebellion. Keep your ignorant in check.

Where I am going with this is that the cause usually always is right in the corner of the accusers and their domains. Russia, while with pride and great people, is not exactly a place that I've heard that inspires its people with its economic infrastructure, and especially for its youth.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:57 pm Reply with quote
dark_bozu wrote:
Omg, this russian article is literal shit-post. You could consider it as some sort of animemaru type of news (I mean, there's no proofs, no links, nothing - just plain text that enyone could write).


o.0 Did you not scroll to the bottom of the article and see the links to the official sources for the information? Or are you, like so many in this thread, just clueless and/or trolling?

Chester McCool wrote:
Weird how people seem so focused on Russia, not the report itself. This kind of thinking is everywhere. BBC thinks anime causes pedophilia, Americans think anime causes sexism, violence, and Nazism. Every country has ignorant people.


It's not at all weird for people to focused on Russia - because this is an employee of a state sponsored organization making a statement on state sponsored media. This places an official imprimatur on the report that the BBC and random Americans do not.

In the same vein (reply to others), this is not anti-Russian propaganda.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:03 pm Reply with quote
Hey, immortal characters who want to die but can't is one of my favorite tropes! Very Happy
But the first few characters who come to mind--besides Anne Rice vampire types--are actually from American comics, namely Mr. Immortal from Marvel's Great Lakes Avengers (it's his whole shtick) and Deadpool.
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John Hayabusa



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:41 pm Reply with quote
So EU is trying to ban memes and then this comes in. This """"""expert"""""" is a total hack.
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Skydrop



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:20 pm Reply with quote
when we will ever see "the good side of anime" news ?!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:37 pm Reply with quote
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An expert at Russia's state-sponsored Center for Protecting Children Against Online Threats appeared on RIA Novosti, the country's state-run news agency, claiming a link between anime and teenage suicide.


I pretty much stopped reading right there.
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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:03 pm Reply with quote
Skydrop wrote:
when we will ever see "the good side of anime" news ?!


Here you go.

Яeverse wrote:
Dont understand why this was posted and even giving it a platform. Just because its *letting you know whats going on* doesnt mean one should give a platform to the folks.

Now anti anime fans will come here and use this article and the original tweet to support their anti anime views.

Awesome job enabling these people ANN.

like crediting USA and CHN for creating the content and not JPN, already should have been a red flag*


I don't see the harm in posting the article. Like you said, it raises some red flags like crediting the US and China, among others, so I would look askance on anyone who took this as proof of their views on anime. It would only make them seem silly or grasping at straws. That anecdote seems pretty fishy to me too.
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Allegedly the community turned on the child, claiming they'd kill off her beloved character if she didn't draw the violent images they wanted.
That doesn't even make sense, and I can't see how anyone could believe that if they knew anyone who watches anime. If someone wants to take these ridiculous claims as proof of anything and make a fool of themselves, I say let them, and turn it around on them.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:31 pm Reply with quote
Яeverse wrote:
Dont understand why this was posted and even giving it a platform. Just because its *letting you know whats going on* doesnt mean one should give a platform to the folks.

Now anti anime fans will come here and use this article and the original tweet to support their anti anime views.

Awesome job enabling these people ANN.



I sure hope you're not as serious as the guy that offered up this nonsensical take cause hardly anyone in his home country is going to take him seriously let alone anyone outside of it. People in Russia have far more pressing concerns then some idiot who thinks anime is a public health concern.


Takkun4343 wrote:
Whenever I hear Russia, suicide, and anime in the same sentence, my mind always goes back to the teenager who threw himself off the roof after spoiler[Itachi was killed off] in Shippuden.



What?

russ869 wrote:

Kind of surprising. If somebody was going to do that, wouldn't it have made more sense to do it earlier, after they completely retconned his entire backstory and motivation. That was basically when I quit Naruto forever.


Kind of hard to retcon something that was never fully established. And if someone did do that over that plot development that'd be equally stupid.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:37 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:

Takkun4343 wrote:
Whenever I hear Russia, suicide, and anime in the same sentence, my mind always goes back to the teenager who threw himself off the roof after spoiler[Itachi was killed off] in Shippuden.



What?

Referring to this article.
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青白



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:49 pm Reply with quote
ANN isn’t the one at fault here for posting this article. If you think this article will give idiots wrong ideas about anime, then it is the problem of the immaturity of those individuals who are stupid enough to believe those non-sensical Russian statements are real. And also the parents and the system that raised them to be so ignorant.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:34 pm Reply with quote
I think this is a Russian propaganda machine at work with usual false narrative. Its role is trying to rile up people with outrageous/false claim and thus hoping to lead to a meaningless divisive political shouting match.

Luckily fans here are knowledgeable enough to distinguish the difference between legitimate claim versus false narrative on popular media of Anime and Manga, but the shouting match has almost started because the propaganda pushed socially-sensitive issue of child suicide claim on what fans care about.

Since media is a reflection of society, it's not surprising to see foreign entity like Russia using propaganda to push their agenda on media. Anime & manga is just as vulnerable to influences as other media.
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