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Dextres
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 Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:36 pm
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I may be naive in this area here; but won't Naoko Takeuchi, the creator of Sailor Moon makes more bank from this movie success; including how it distributed to her.
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CastMember1991
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:37 pm
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I hope Toei is doing the animation and is only giving Studio DEEN production credit. When they produce shows alone, Studio DEEN has a pretty sucky track record. Rilu Rulu Fairilu was awful, and they ruined such great franchises as Fate/stay night (which luckily was saved by Ufotable) and Jewelpet.
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Piexouar
Joined: 19 Jun 2020
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:54 am
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| CastMember1991 wrote: | | I hope Toei is doing the animation and is only giving Studio DEEN production credit. When they produce shows alone, Studio DEEN has a pretty sucky track record. Rilu Rulu Fairilu was awful, and they ruined such great franchises as Fate/stay night (which luckily was saved by Ufotable) and Jewelpet. |
They are most likely helping out due to the director's, Chiaki Kon, connection to the studio. I imagine it's a co-production like the Digimon Adventure reboot where Studio Gallop does every 2nd or so episode. As long as they're just doing character acting I'm fine with them.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:03 pm
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So Sumire Morohoshi has now gone from being Nina in FMAB to PallaPalla in Sailor Moon Eternal? Rie Takahashi as VesVes is probably the VA I'm most familiar with out of this cast as she was Emilia in Re:Zero and has done a lot of roles over the years like Miki in School Live, Cure Miracle in Maho Girls Precure, and Ena in Laid Back Camp. Reina Ueda has also done a lot of roles I like such as Ruri in Dr. Stone and Akane in Gridman. The Amazoness Quartet have always been some of my favorite Sailor Moon villains and I always wanted to see them as the Sailor Quartet and I can't wait to finally see that happening in anime form. With all these news dumps we've been getting for the Eternal movies lately, hopefully we'll also soon get to see what Zirconia and Nehelenia look like and maybe theme song info too.
| Quote: | | I hope Toei is doing the animation and is only giving Studio DEEN production credit. When they produce shows alone, Studio DEEN has a pretty sucky track record. Rilu Rulu Fairilu was awful, and they ruined such great franchises as Fate/stay night (which luckily was saved by Ufotable) and Jewelpet. |
The first three seasons of Crystal were also done by Toei to varying degrees of animation quality. Plenty of other Toei properties like Digimon and Dragon Ball Super have also suffered from Toei animation quality control issues. Eternal probably won't be any worse than the first three seasons of Crystal but I'm not counting on it to be a significant increase in quality either. As Plexouar says, Deen is likely only playing a small supporting role in the production, but it seems unfair to automatically assume that any animation quality issues with Eternal is solely Deen's fault when Toei has a long history of wonky animation with Sailor Moon and their other franchises. But Eternal will probably be just fine at best.
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Piexouar
Joined: 19 Jun 2020
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:19 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | The first three seasons of Crystal were also done by Toei to varying degrees of animation quality. Plenty of other Toei properties like Digimon and Dragon Ball Super have also suffered from Toei animation quality control issues. Eternal probably won't be any worse than the first three seasons of Crystal but I'm not counting on it to be a significant increase in quality either. As Plexouar says, Deen is likely only playing a small supporting role in the production, but it seems unfair to automatically assume that any animation quality issues with Eternal is solely Deen's fault when Toei has a long history of wonky animation with Sailor Moon and their other franchises. But Eternal will probably be just fine at best. |
Tbf Season 3 of Crystal had a completely different team and it showed. Crystal S3's production seemed to majorly wrap up in May of 2016, and the way better schedule allowed even the weaker teams to do a decent job. Even the strong animators that worked on it mentioned the show's unusually good production schedule. And more or less the same core staff is handling Eternal too.
Super is an entirely different topic. The issues run deeper than just lack of quality control. All major parties screwed up that made the production fundamentally broken. Ending it was the only solution.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:46 pm
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| Quote: | | Tbf Season 3 of Crystal had a completely different team and it showed. Crystal S3's production seemed to majorly wrap up in May of 2016, and the way better schedule allowed even the weaker teams to do a decent job. Even the strong animators that worked on it mentioned the show's unusually good production schedule. And more or less the same core staff is handling Eternal too. |
S3 was a vast improvement though I would argue s2 was already starting to see an improvement in some areas. The funny faces a lot of fans credit s3 with already returned in s2. But s3 still had some issues in the middle part of the season with wonky faces, off model character designs, and some weird animation short cuts in action scenes. Fans have been critical of the 90s redraws with Eternal though the 90s redraws were also in s3 and to some extent with s2. Eternal will probably be more or less the same with s3's quality where the majority will probably look fine especially in the big important moments of the movies but you can expect some weirdness here and there like with Digimon Adventure Tri. But it probably won't be on the level of a big budget anime movie standard a lot of fans are holding it to and it's more like OVA quality.
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Piexouar
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:27 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | S3 was a vast improvement though I would argue s2 was already starting to see an improvement in some areas. The funny faces a lot of fans credit s3 with already returned in s2. But s3 still had some issues in the middle part of the season with wonky faces, off model character designs, and some weird animation short cuts in action scenes. Fans have been critical of the 90s redraws with Eternal though the 90s redraws were also in s3 and to some extent with s2. Eternal will probably be more or less the same with s3's quality where the majority will probably look fine especially in the big important moments of the movies but you can expect some weirdness here and there like with Digimon Adventure Tri. But it probably won't be on the level of a big budget anime movie standard a lot of fans are holding it to and it's more like OVA quality. |
True, but even the strongest proudctions are bound to have some lows. And I agree that people should expect something closer to OVA quality, considering both "movies" are so close to each other. The big difference between this and Tri is that the latter was fully outsourced to Koji Ito's studio and had no Toei involvement whatsoever.
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