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tintor2
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Oh Yoshimitsu Ohashi... For a second it felt the same staff as it reminded me not only of Code Geass but also Gun x Sword. But yeah, the "fanservice" was taken way too far as Code Geass and Gun x Sword used to use it as comic relief most of the time if I remember. I think Akito the Exiled had complete nudity in one scene but without any comical or serious manner. It felt more like a recent Nier Automata episode where the Commander is briefly shown naked but still behaves like a professional.
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InfiniteNothingness
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Despite my reservations with 7, this still felt the most "Code Geass" it's ever been, and for that I had to bump a 3.5 to a cautious 4.
This has me wondering, a la Metallic Rouge, if it actually was planned for exactly 12 episodes. Reminded of how I saw talk of it being planned for more, yet no concrete information in that regard even after looking further in. I'd be more sympathetic to some of its flaws if I absolutely knew, or could get a vague idea with regards to background production talk, if it was planned for more. Otherwise I've got a real bone to pick with how severely compressed multiple aspects of this series have felt. Although I only read that post was alluding less to stuff like that and more as a general reflection on what it's (not) done with its time so far. Also, I'm no stranger to Char clones, but Norland feels hideously undercooked and paper thin as when he was blankly staring into space in episode 1. Like sure, now we know the specifics of how he was a terrible dad grooming Ash for war, except that was pretty much Ash's episode rather than anything to do with our main antagonist. It's actively difficult to care about him personally, despite knowing the atrocities he's leading. |
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MFrontier
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Walther, seriously, if you were going to help them out of loyalty to Princess Sherry, could you not have waited until Sakura had tied her robe and put her clothes on? This conversation didn't need to be this intense. Is it any wonder Sakura was suspicious of him?
Imagine you find someone who promised to protect you as part of a dying wish of your father (who also technically shipped the two of you for, like, two seconds) and assuming they are an assassin geass them and rewrite their mind to think of you as something precious to them and overwriting the thing that actually is most precious to them in the process. Sakuya had the perfect ally and love interest and she violated his mind in the most grievous way possible. So was Nichol just always there when Ash was on missions and just got directly involved in this one so Ash didn't have to kill Ruby? But now we've got two dead kids in one episode. Did Narah care at all about Ruby's death? She didn't even really react to Nichol's. Bismarck cameo! So Norland's always worn the mask and it seems like he and Ash were both Knights of the Round? I really wonder what Norland's deal is because he comes Man, Jugo Sumeragi was only on-screen for half the episode and he's already my favorite character. Imagine getting caught because you used your Geass to steal a bike. Something so mundane and it brings Sakuya's entire plan down. They've even arrested Natalia. But hey, now she doesn't need to dress up as Roze! But she does get locked up in bondage. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Unless I missed a few things (which is too often the case), Sakuya does not head Lavender House, and she is the brainwasher, not the brainwashee. |
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Daidan12
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100% Agree with the review, sadly Roze lacks pacing, this is a "big event episode", but we speedrun a lot of events, if this was old Geass this episode would have been 3:
- No 1.- Scissorman explaining his Geass torture in great detail, Sakuya's guilt drowning her and remembering all the times she had used it and wondering how many people's lives she had ruined with her Geass spam. On the B-plot it would be Ash going nuts searching for "his brother" against the Neo Britannians and thinking about all the things they have done together and thinking that "something" is wrong. Episode ends with the 2 Einzebergs being deployed to kill the Resistance for good, both because now they have all of Sakuya's info and also because of Ash's rampage. - No. 2 Pure fight, make the SSS (Seven Shining Stars) look somewhat competent after all the things they have gone through and then the 2 Einzbergs start squashing them, waste some time with Sakuya thinking about how to escape by trying to order the subjects to pull the lever of the room but her indecisiveness made Scissorman kill them anyway. The main 2 fights happen and end the episode with Ash getting his Geass order canceled. End the episode with him saying Sakuya's name in a confused tone. - No.3.- Make Ash escape of the Einzberg a little more involved, it was really random how he just let him go after a few Stoormtrooper shots, make half the SSS help him infiltrate the prison and the other half battle Catherine with Haruka as the leader. Ash actually interacts with Scissorman and spout his true feelings about him, as a mentor, as Norland's puppet and then Scissorman deflects to Sakuya's actions to disturb Ash even more. End the episode with a gunshot sound for old time's sake. The only thing that bothers me is that this makes Sakuya a damsel in distress for too much time, but the combo of bondage suit + bird cage is a difficult prison to escape without outside help. |
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tintor2
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I think Code Geass could compete with Fairy Tail in regards how the writers go too far with putting fanservice. A lot of characters died in the latest episode and we get both villains and Sakuya among others having questionable shots. It feels weird for Clamp to be responsible for this art considering their own seinen Xxxholic has no such thing even though Yuko is quite an attractive woman
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Silver Kirin
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This wasn't my favourite episode overall, but I though it had some good character moments, particularly in regards to Ash, though the ending confrontation between him and Sakuya felt kind of empty since we know what's going to happen. I actually really enjoyed how hammy Cristoph got when he was interrogating Sakuya, I think I like when the (Neo) Britannians act more like cartoony villains. I didn't care that much for Arnold, he seems like a discount version of Jeremiah from the original versions, but he feels flat because we don't know much about him apart that he had a sort of rivalry with Ash, but at least the Knightmare Frame fight between them was cool, as well as the fight between Ash and Cristoph. The fight between Haruka and Catherine, not so much.
You have to remember that CLAMP are only responsible for the initial character designs for the whole Code Geass franchise, but the designs themselves were finalized by the late Takahiro Kimura, who managed to work in Rozé before his passing, and Kimura's previous works like Godannar featured a lot of fanservice designs. Still, the fanservice in Code Geass can get kind of old fast, even when I watched the original series when I was a teenager I thought kind of gratuitous, especially since the series seemed to position itself as more mature mecha series, at least compatred with other Sunrise anime, though I think that most of the mature content in the first season was due to the violent content, which was toned donwn in R2. Still, I'm not opposed to the writers and artists making those fanservice shots, it just seems like they're trying to repeat what made the original series popular. |
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tintor2
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Akito the Exiled once gave a full nude to a female character but without any gag. When Sunrise used fanservice for Kallen it kinda felt more like comic relief considering it became too recurring even in the visual shorts. They say that the new Gundam SEED movie also makes heavy emphasis on fanservice but I don't know if it is put in the same fashion.
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Silver Kirin
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In regards to Kallen, yes, she had the most fanservice scenes and shots in the original series, scenes with her bathing or piloting her Knightmare Frame felt like the most direct, then you had some that felt like the artists like to put her in some sort of vulnerable positions, like the time she wore the bunnygirl outfit or when she was held hostage by Britannia/Suzaku, but the only one that I remember that felt like comedy relief was that time when she wore a mascot costume for a school festival, but she was wearing just underwear or a bathing suit underneath. I haven't seen Akito of the Exiled, so I didn't know there was nudity featured in that OVA. The only instance of female nudity that I remember from the original series occurred when Villetta woke up in Ohgi's bed, since Ohgi had to took Villetta's clothes to treat her wounds she was left naked, when she tried to sit up the bedsheet that was covering her fell off and her bare breasts were exposed, but she quickly covered herself. I actually didn't consider that as a fanservice scene when I first watched it, it felt kind of dramatic in a sense, both Villetta and Ohgi were embarassed for what happened. Ironically, in R2 Villetta starred in one of the most well-known fanservice scenes from the whole series, when she had to wore a bikini in another Ashford Academy school festival. |
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MFrontier
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At this point I feel like you go into Code Geass expecting fanservice of both the Mecha and female variety (and plenty of classic anime camera angles). Did we need Sakuya in bondage and close-ups of her butt during her talk with Norland? No. But it was very Code Geass that they did.
Things finally turn for the worse for our protagonists in every way possible. So were they likely going to bring in Natalia to make Sakuya use her Geass? Sakuya and Norland finally confront each other...and Norland only cares about Geass. What, has he always wanted one so he can have an excuse to take his mask off? I guess we needed an obsessed and insane rival character in Arnold. Okay, I have to give props to Catherine, being willing to throw hands in her Knightmare just to flaunt her skills is pretty impressive. I guess she and Haruka are officially rivals. I see Christoph lives up to the Scissorman title with his Knightmare's weapon of choice. Must have been very satisfying for Ash to defeat his old "mentor." We know Ash isn't going to kill Sakuya but it should be interesting to see how different their relationship will be now. |
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jr240483
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you forgot to mention the whole nina mastrubating in the school dorm desk while holding up a picture of yufie back in season one! in my opinion......... THATS EVEN FAR MORE OVER THE TOP FANSERVICE THAN KALLEN BEING NUDE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! . |
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LastPage 3
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The Geass Canceller tech was established by the Geass Order, which got completely wiped by Black Knights in R2. All Neo-Brittania had were some scraps of data, they had to recreate the thing. This was mentioned in previous eps. |
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tintor2
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So the latest episode shows a lot of cameos from past Code Geass works but they all look the same. I guess Lelouch became an immortal like C.C but Akito and the others are supposed to be adults, right? How long has it been? I mean Clamp also drew adult versions of Sakura, Syaoran, Subaru, among others in their previous works.
Also Ash taking down that scientist gave me Witch from Mercury flashbacks with the way he used a mecha. |
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MFrontier
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I have to applaud the writers for at least having Ash run away to process his feelings, I think everyone just assumed he'd immediately free Sakuya.
Gotta give Scissorman this much, he went out on his own terms. But at least it finally shut him up. Dang, Sakuya just had to crush everything Ash loved like that. He hadn't even figured out "Raspberry" was Sakuya and she didn't want to lie to him any more...and ironically she confesses as "Roze." Though will his attraction to Raspberry now transfer to Sakuya who he already has complicated feelings about? Nothing brings two women together like pressing their big chests against each other. Kind of a little too late to redeem Catherine, but at least it seems like there's a reason she is the way she is. Every episode I keep asking myself "what does Norland want?" because it genuinely does not become any clearer by the episode. Cameos! Cameos galore! |
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jr240483
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since he is a former knight of round, there is two scenarios here! 1) from the imposing build of his body alone, it might be possible that he could be actually the former knight of one aka bizmark walstein which in return would explain on why neo britania knows so much about geass! i mean suzaku was able to survive after his unit blew up, so its not out there that he two surived his apparant death! or 2) he was a knight of round when nunnally was empress! or 3 (and one theory i disliked the most) he might end up being a clone of a younger version of charles z britania which in turn will basically they will be doing a gundam seed destiny like when they had that series revealed ray as a younger clone of raul la crusade, and to be frank i would not put past this series to do that considering that there is supposed to be cloned children of the main cast that were introduced in the code geass lost stories gacha game! that would be a disaster all around! there are already people comparing this series to boruto: naruto next generations, eureka 7 ao and uq holder as a mediocre sequel that is inferior to the original, but if no 3 is true, it would be much worse! those same people will be comparing it to nothing more as a glorified ad promo for the gacha game of the same name which is what a lot of people have done when there is a new season of danmachi. calling every season a gacha game ad promo! |
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