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Lord Geo
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What are you talking about? Mars has had MULTIPLE anime adaptations! In fact, it technically had one every decade from the 80s (God Mars) to the 90s (the unfinished Mars OVA) to the 00s (Shin Seiki Den Mars), which is honestly kind of impressive but I'd say proves how good of a manga that Mitsuteru Yokoyama made with Mars back in the late 70s. . . . . . . . . Oh... Oh, you mean THAT Mars. My bad. Anyway, I kid but I do know that the shojo Mars manga has always been a beloved classic, even back when I was getting into anime & manga in the mid-00s, so it is a bit surprising that it never got an anime adaptation. Maybe it was because Yokoyama's sci-fi Mars manga was always getting adapted, though, so there was always the risk of brand confusion? |
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Joe Mello
 Posts: 2562 Location: Online Terminal |
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I still consider Sae to be The Bitch Of All Time. It's often entertaining to see other series try to step to the queen and miss.
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Nyapan
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I'm sorry to be that person but April Showers Bring May Flowers isn't a shojo, the manga is published in a seinen magazine. It is really similar to one though so I understand the confusion.
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R. Kasahara
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This reminds me of an excellent article about non-shoujo works being classified as "shoujo" by the likes of Crunchyroll. |
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all-tsun-and-no-dere
ANN Reviewer
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Huh! Usually I can catch these but this one had me fooled. |
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gsilver
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Some manga authors that I read. like Kyou Machiko, alternate between Josei and Seinen publications, and I'd be hard pressed, content wise, to say which ones were which.
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MFrontier
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I think Hananoi has a pretty distinct character even as they slowly unravel why he acts the way he does...and whether you're willing to tolerate or accept his behavior because of it (I myself found him somewhat endearing after a while).
I just wish more Shojo anime adaptions got better production values. |
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RiderMurdock
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While I am pretty sure Momo gets some great sleep due to the amount of melatonin she gets from all that athletic work, sounds like melanin is the correct word for this case. Thanks for bringing up this bundle, yet another good Kodansha bundle. |
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Oggers
 Posts: 468 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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I remember seeing Peach Girl in a lot of bookstores and plenty of ads for it in other manga back when Tokyopop was publishing it. Maybe I should give the manga a shot one of these days, especially since Momo really does have an excellent face game.
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Fluwm
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I remember really enjoying Shugo Character back in the day, but don’t think I ever got around to actually finishing it. I do remember it being very silly, but somehow completely managed to forget about the egg motif.
Peach Girl was a good read too, though I don’t recall ever trying Mars before — unless it was one I abandoned early one: there were at least one or two big shoujo titles I hoped out of fairly quickly due to SA scenes. Still, this bundle is a fantastic opportunity to revisit the lot. (Also on the conversation of shoujo tropes, I can’t help but notice Shugo Character started right around the same time as what is possibly my favorite entry in the genre, Kimi ni Todoke, which wound up subverting most of this tropes. It’s weird because in my head I think of KnT as a much later series — but, nope, 2005.) btw, we’re all(?) still anxiously awaiting that Star Trek-themed TWIA that surely becomes more and more inevitable with each passing week.
Especially if the setting isnt a highschool. Like I can never quite remember which side of the line Red River/Anatolia Story sits on. But I’ll never forget seeing someone joke, once, that “if it’s good, it’s seinen, if it’s not, it’s jousei/shoujo.” |
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Nekbone
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Seeing people call Rent-A-Girlfriend shoujo because it has a romance focus was really funny. I think most people only think shounen is action battle shows and think "shoujo" just means romance and people don't actually what what gender and age demographics are.
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Jisu
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Shoujo and josei have a dedicated community trying to push them, but outside of that community, they're ignored and scoffed at while popular shounen and seinen titles are mistaken for shoujo. I'm glad there's effort out there still being made. I was around in the 00s manga boom and there was shoujo everywhere, and marketing it to normie girls was a well-documented major part of why there even was a boom.
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Top Gun
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This was a fascinating read and sent me down a bit of a link chain. I know essentially nothing about the shoujo/josei landscape other than the couple of series I've watched that do legitimately come from them, so there were a lot of perspectives in there I'd never encountered before. |
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TheRealMaria
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Shoujo was not responsible for the American manga boom. Shounen still dominated the market in the 00s as well. Viz's Shonen Jump print magazine lasted a lot longer than their attempt with Shojo Beat did, for example. Outside of Boys Over Flowers, NANA, and Fruits Basket there wasn't particularly a lot of high selling shoujo and josei manga during that era. And they certainly never reached the levels of sales that shounen was seeing at the time. That was when Viz was pumping out One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Dragonball, and all the other big shounen staples in English for the first time. I get being annoyed shoujo often gets overlooked but it feels like shoujo fans try to overcompensate by overselling it way too hard. Even in Japan the highest selling shoujo series ranks #38 of the best selling manga of all time. The second shoujo comes in at #55 and that's Glass Mask which has never been released in America. Now if you mean there hasn't really been a lot of popular shoujo/josei series in modern times compared to what came out in the 00s then I could agree with that. It seems like most of the big shoujo and josei stuff came out in the 2000s or before. It'd be interesting to look into why that is... perhaps shojo writers and fans shifted over to live-action dramas, books, or other mediums rather than manga. |
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Oggers
Posts: 468 Location: Ontario, Canada |
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From what I've seen, quite a few manga that would normally have been classified as shoujo in the past tend to run in shonen or seinen magazines nowadays (such as Romantic Killer, which is a parody of reverse harem/otome games similar to Ouran High School Host Club but ran in Shonen Jump +, or Skip and Loafer, which has all the hallmarks of a shoujo romance and the creator has admitted to being influenced by those but runs in a seinen magazine). It's likely meant for those manga to reach a wider audience, since they would probably be dismissed as "too girly" if they ran in shoujo magazines. |
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