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Greed1914
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One thing that all these stops around the world has me wondering is how they convinced people to get to work like that. Up until now, new groups have meant friction and winning them over. Are the new unpetrified people so grateful that they jump on board with doing hard labor for someone who they don't know asking for rocket ship materials? I suppose they could be, especially if that person also sets them up with food etc.
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Azure Chrysanthemum
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 9:42 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | One thing that all these stops around the world has me wondering is how they convinced people to get to work like that. Up until now, new groups have meant friction and winning them over. Are the new unpetrified people so grateful that they jump on board with doing hard labor for someone who they don't know asking for rocket ship materials? I suppose they could be, especially if that person also sets them up with food etc. |
I think that's generally it - they just roll in, revive them, give them resources and the means to revive their friends and family in exchange for helping in a critical mission to prevent the petrification from coming again. Most people would generally be down for that, I think.
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Gina Szanboti
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 10:49 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | Up until now, new groups have meant friction and winning them over. |
What new groups have they met that were composed of pre-petrification people, besides Xeno's group and Chelsea (a conflict-free encounter)? The only conflicts with 21st c. people have been with Tsukasa's faction, which hardly counts as a new group since they were the original group until the split, and Xeno's army. The two groups of astronaut descendants (Ishigami Village and Treasure Island folks) were not surprisingly resisting being colonized by outsiders. None of these situations apply to the new people they've been reviving since, except perhaps the colonization angle, which was briefly brought up in Spain, ironically.
| Quote: | | Animals generally don't have the sustained drive and attention, not to mention cognitive capabilities, to complete such a plan. |
Never seen beavers build a dam, I guess. Or a bird build a nest or bower.  Animals that form close companionships with humans have been known to mimic human behaviors, and bored animals can definitely get into habitual behaviors to pass the time. Both dogs and especially pigs are smarter than we give them credit for. My point is, while I doubt they deliberately built a wall in order to protect the petrified people, the effect was the same, and no harder to swallow than a whole lot of other things this series wants us to accept. 
| Sekaro wrote: | | Wait so is Sai actually even indian or half-indian? |
The fan wiki sez his mother was Indian and he is Ryusui's half-brother.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 8:03 pm |
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| Gina Szanboti wrote: | .... while I doubt they deliberately built a wall in order to protect the petrified people, the effect was the same, and no harder to swallow than a whole lot of other things this series wants us to accept. ... |
Yeah, you can say that again!
I caught a couple of lines of dialogue stood out this week. First, about the crew "bringing the whole of humanity together for a common purpose". Sorry, what I saw was our group of Japanese youngsters steaming in on what looks like a battleship** to Spain, India, Australia and Indonesia, revive a few locals to provide manual labor (complete with pickaxes) and leave with loads of goods needed for their project in Japan. Can someone say "Southern Resource Area"...?
To be clear, I doubt the author fully intends to normalize imperialism but when there is no indication that the people in said countries knowingly volunteered to gather the (requested?) resources to be part of the "grand endeavor" or were given resources to revive other of their compatriots and reconstruct society, it's hard to ignore what's presented and how it seems. And then there was "what place on Earth is best for hydro-electric generation?" Hmmm, US Pacific Northwest/British Columbia or China...silly goose, it's Japan!  (not)
**Compare New Perseus to pre-dreadnaught battleship SMS Kaiser Friedrich III and look up "dazzle paint" concepts for warships like USS Smith. Also, steel isn't naturally "haze grey", that is paint made to obscure warships at sea...
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Azure Chrysanthemum
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 12:59 am |
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| Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | | Gina Szanboti wrote: | .... while I doubt they deliberately built a wall in order to protect the petrified people, the effect was the same, and no harder to swallow than a whole lot of other things this series wants us to accept. ... |
Yeah, you can say that again!
I caught a couple of lines of dialogue stood out this week. First, about the crew "bringing the whole of humanity together for a common purpose". Sorry, what I saw was our group of Japanese youngsters steaming in on what looks like a battleship** to Spain, India, Australia and Indonesia, revive a few locals to provide manual labor (complete with pickaxes) and leave with loads of goods needed for their project in Japan. Can someone say "Southern Resource Area"...?
To be clear, I doubt the author fully intends to normalize imperialism but when there is no indication that the people in said countries knowingly volunteered to gather the (requested?) resources to be part of the "grand endeavor" or were given resources to revive other of their compatriots and reconstruct society, it's hard to ignore what's presented and how it seems. And then there was "what place on Earth is best for hydro-electric generation?" Hmmm, US Pacific Northwest/British Columbia or China...silly goose, it's Japan! (not)
**Compare New Perseus to pre-dreadnaught battleship SMS Kaiser Friedrich III and look up "dazzle paint" concepts for warships like USS Smith. Also, steel isn't naturally "haze grey", that is paint made to obscure warships at sea... |
I generally appreciate Riichiro Inagaki's work, but the man has a track record of breezing through very problematic themes without batting an eye. In Eyeshield 21 he had a Black character named Panther who was functionally unbeatable because being Black makes him a good runner. The character had basically a Lifetime racism plot during that arc with his coach who hated Black people because a Black man was better than him at football when he was still playing. It was dire.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 3:39 pm |
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| Azure Chrysanthemum wrote: | | Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | | ...Can someone say "Southern Resource Area"...? To be clear, I doubt the author fully intends to normalize imperialism but.... |
I generally appreciate Riichiro Inagaki's work, but the man has a track record of breezing through very problematic themes without batting an eye... |
Oh, ho ho...I thought I was reading a little too much into the "we need Indian people because they are mathematical geniuses" concept only to ditch them after finding the real target (Japanese-Indian Sai) and feasting on nan, rice and curry...In that context it is a little disturbing that in contrast to Spain, Australia, etc that Americans are the only equal partners in the New Space Race.
However, since the US gave the world so much of modern technology (including TV, thanks to the reviewer for pointing out it wasn't Japan as Gen claimed), it seemed a logical first choice and I wondered at the author not having the ISS crew going for a US landing in the first place as they would have had access to the foremost analytical labs and equipment in the world from the outset. I'll try to keep this from coloring my appreciation of the story going forward, but I may call out other BS as it appears...
Like EP31 here continuing the trend of having Senku and company going for the most difficult solution possible when an easily accessible alternative is well within reach and to answer the first question that should have been asked when "Why Man's" location was apparent. It all depends on what "Why Man" is and how large "he" is. An alien base station covering some kilometers might be visible with a good one-meter reflective telescope from Mt Fuji but if "he" is an alien device the size of an automobile or smaller, even a space-based telescope would be unlikely to see that with the makeshift "Vidicon Tubes" they are making.
All of that is unnecessary because "Why Man's" transmission is made up of high-power very short (likely <100ns) pulses that would be easy to locate within some kilometers using three widely spaced radio receivers synchronized to a common time base using AM Radio, all of which they have already. The three could have been either end of Japan and one on the Chinese mainland but a really good pinpoint could be gotten by one in each of Japan, the US and South America...
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Greed1914
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:33 am |
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| Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | |
Like EP31 here continuing the trend of having Senku and company going for the most difficult solution possible when an easily accessible alternative is well within reach and to answer the first question that should have been asked when "Why Man's" location was apparent. It all depends on what "Why Man" is and how large "he" is. An alien base station covering some kilometers might be visible with a good one-meter reflective telescope from Mt Fuji but if "he" is an alien device the size of an automobile or smaller, even a space-based telescope would be unlikely to see that with the makeshift "Vidicon Tubes" they are making.
All of that is unnecessary because "Why Man's" transmission is made up of high-power very short (likely <100ns) pulses that would be easy to locate within some kilometers using three widely spaced radio receivers synchronized to a common time base using AM Radio, all of which they have already. The three could have been either end of Japan and one on the Chinese mainland but a really good pinpoint could be gotten by one in each of Japan, the US and South America... |
I feel like they've used triangulation before too. Like you said, there is a trend when it comes to Dr. Stone where something seemingly way too difficult to do in the stone world is the solution to an immediate problem. Sometimes, it circles back a bit to show how prior stuff they did is incorporated, but there is a tendency to go for making a new thing (probably for spectacle)
Why Man's behavior also inadvertently helps with what you've suggested. His reactions to events on Earth have been to do something constantly. He constantly asked "Why" or "Do you want to die" They also don't think Why Man set off the Medusa this time because his thing is to bombard with signals. A constant signal is probably easier to find than trying to launch a satellite to get a look at the moon.
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Greed1914
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2026 10:11 am |
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The passage of time is something that has gotten sort of wonky to follow. It does help explain how there is time, and perhaps even a need, for things like international baseball games if people are working away for years on this. I continue to be both surprised and impressed that people continue to be willing to work away as miners etc., especially since years of that may give people time to reconsider. Maybe the prospect of Why Man turning everyone back to stone is enough to keep them dedicated.
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qwzzwq
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2026 1:59 pm |
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Can we talk about how pointless the voting machine was?
They would have been better off with good old paper ballots, instead they wasted countless resources on a worse system that relied on trusting Sai.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 12:32 am |
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| Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | | ...I caught a couple of lines of dialogue stood out this week. First, about the crew "bringing the whole of humanity together for a common purpose"....when there is no indication that the people in said countries... were given resources to revive other of their compatriots and reconstruct society,... |
Feels conceited quoting myself, but this episode it seems these things were happening off-screen after all, so I have to retract this? Having the first part happen even given widespread de-petrification seems incredibly unlikely given human nature but this episode, we have a teleconference and no one objects to having the Japan-based crew unilaterally announce that they were going to be doing the mission. "Let's all work together to give us your stuff so we can do this..."
While I applaud that for the first time a couple of things proposed were factually correct and do-able if given enough copper and vacuum tube technology (we had a light-pen equipped CRT in a college lab ala 1977), undersea cable networks took years to lay...
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Greed1914
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 10:52 am |
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The moon team is what I expected. That preview lineup we saw before would have been all pre-stone world people, which would have been an odd choice. Senku is going to be there since he is the main character, and the difference between his skills and Chrome is drastic enough that being more versatile physically would probably be a net loss. Tsukasa told Kohaku that she isn't as far off from him as she thinks, and I don't think they lose much by giving up his added combat ability. Plus, Stanley would end up balancing that out. Credit to Ryusui for recognizing that Stanley would provide more in total than him for this job. Plus, it's not like NASA didn't tap military pilots as astronauts all the time.
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Azure Chrysanthemum
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:32 pm |
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The rocket launch was beautiful, they really understood the assignment with this one.
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Blaze_1013
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:57 pm |
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I knew the moment between Stanley and Xeno was coming and I was still caught off guard by it and couldn't help but laugh. It's just so incredibly gay I don't know how anyone could look at their relationship and not see that.
The rocket launch was the big moment for the episode and it was done fantastically. Playing Rocket to go along with it was also probably the whole reason that's the ED too which really sold the moment.
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Aura Ichadora
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:39 pm |
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| Blaze_1013 wrote: | | I knew the moment between Stanley and Xeno was coming and I was still caught off guard by it and couldn't help but laugh. It's just so incredibly gay I don't know how anyone could look at their relationship and not see that. |
People have been denying it since "the scene" happened in the manga. But the anime somehow made it even more gay than the manga could ever do, and yet I still saw denials on my feed. I feel the same way while watching Final Space S3 and the moment between Gary and Avocato mentally communicating with each other in a flower field happened. There's no straight reason I can think of to actually explain those scenes... although at least for Final Space, the argument could be made that Gary and/or Avocato are bi. Can't say the same for StanXeno. 
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Greed1914
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:28 pm |
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For a species of sentient machine that can apparently travel space, the Medusas seem to stumble in the face of things not working as expected. They assume that radio waves mean humans are sufficiently advanced, only for them not to be. And then when they receive radio waves after thousands of years, they try again, only for that not to work. And then that one in the vacuum's reaction is to try again because it thinks it needs to keep showing the glory of petrification. If this machine can move travel to other planets on its own and come up with these plans, you'd think it would take the hint and leave after humans were a bust 3000 years ago.
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