Forum - View topic80's we had Gundam, 90's we had Eva, what about 00's?
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dpgc4life
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Gundam forever change the super robot genre that was popular in the 70's, Eva forever change the robot genre again in the 90's. You dont have to be an anime fan to know what is gundam or EVA. What do we have for the 00s? I cant name one show that really shines in the 00's. Haruka seems like an candidate but non anime fans wont konw what is Harkua unlike gundam or eva. I can name a handful of good shows that are in the 00's but they aren't be as sigifncant as eva in the 90's or gundam in the 80's.
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DragonsRevenge
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Eva's more niche than you think. It's big in animation circles but not in the mainstream. And no there wasnt anything like that in the 00's which was the major problem of the last decade - stagnation. |
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ikillchicken
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What exactly are we talking about here? Shows that are really truly outstanding or shows that are massive, breakout hits or shows that have had a huge impact on anime? These are all different things. That don't necessarily go together.
In term of really outstanding anime I'd mention Ghost in the Shell: SAC as well as Samurai Champloo. I don't think either of these shows we're especially influential though and though popular, neither ever achieved the kind of fame you're talking about. I guess maybe FMA or Naruto qualifies on popularity at least to some extent. As for influential shows...I guess whatever started this whole trend of echii comedies, harems and otaku bait shows. |
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Ktimene's Lover
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With over a million DVDs sold, one might argue Code Geass has become what these titles were to their respective decades. Gundam Seed and 00 have also achieved fairly strong to great success.
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Soundmonkey44
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Hmm, I guess the 00's didn't really have any sort of breakthrough mech series, did they. Well I guess Gurren Laggen or Gundam 00 could be considered Big mech series of the 00's. E7 and Code Geass had mechs in them. But yea, I guess in the end, the 00's didn't really have a show that could become the next Gundam, Eva, or Voltron.
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DragonsRevenge
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But if he's looking for a show that revolutionized or redefined the genre, there really wasn't anything like that. Yeah, there were a lot of shows that were runaway hits for various reasons, but none of them had the genre redefining impact that either of those shows did in their respective time periods. There were shows that had similar cultural impacts - FMA, Haruhi Suzumiya, maybe Code Geass, but I doubt it. But this is about mecha, and it was an empty decade for mecha.
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Swissman
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Erm.... Just go to Japan and visit some multimedia stores, pachinko saloons or plainly entertainment districts such as Tokyo's Ikebukuro or Osaka's Namba. Evangelion is almost everywhere. Not only do you see lots of ads for the new movies, characters like Ayanami serve as eyecatcher for other products such as tin coffee as well. Eva has become a popcultural Icon such as Gundam has been since the early eighties. Last edited by Swissman on Tue May 25, 2010 5:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DragonsRevenge
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Yeah, how big is Eva in Switzerland? It's not really that big in the US.
That it's big in Japan says absolutely nothing when comparing it to the rest of the world. [EDIT: Took the eyesores out. -TK] |
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Swissman
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Same goes for Gundam, but that besides the point here. If i'd be about important mecha anime in U.S. fandom, Robotech aka Macross is clearly more important that Gundam for the 80's decade and Go Nagai's Grendizer would replace Gundam in a lot of european countries for the same decade.
[EDIT: Took out more eyesores. -TK] |
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DragonsRevenge
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Gundam had some DBZ level popularity in the US for a little while.
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Mushi-Man
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Are we talking about mecha series here? Cause if so there were plenty of popular and well done mecha series. For example there was Eureka Seven which is arguably the Eva of the new decade. It had a large spanning story and really did something that few other mecha series have done in the past. Or there's Gurren Lagann which made super robot series popular again by throwing in new themes and tastes.
I'm not going to put Code Geass into that category because I don't think it is a mecha series really. More or less the mecha just happen to be there. If we're just taking about general series of this decade I'd like to point out, as ikillchicken did, Ghost in the Shell and other such series were extremely high quality show. And if we're talking popularity you can't over look the huge hits like Naruto and Bleach. |
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Olivine
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In the 80's we had Gundam, 90's we had Eva, 00's we had Kodomo no Jikan.
*starts running* Seriously? Maybe Kanon. It sort of redefined moe, but I don't know if non-anime people really know about it at all. |
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Tony K.
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You see these quotes? Don't do that. It's annoying to look at and needlessly takes up extra space.
Quote one person when necessary, maybe a second if there's not too much text. Otherwise, don't quote if you're directly replying to the user above you. This is the only warning for everyone, so don't get uppity if your excessively-quoted posts get deleted from now on. Last edited by Tony K. on Tue May 25, 2010 6:06 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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ikillchicken
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As I understood it, Gundam never really managed to achieve that kind of popularity in the US. It's certainly had enough success to appear on TV but I don't think it was ever ahead of any of the other slightly mainstream shows that did. Certainly not close to DBZ. |
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Megiddo
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Well, Gundam Wing was certainly really popular during its days on Toonami, but I don't think any other Gundam property has gotten up to that level in USA since.
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