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Lord Geo
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:58 pm |
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| Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | -Sigh- I would prefer if these remakes would just copy Saint Seiya and just animated the missing arcs leaving the perfectly watchable previous adaptation alone. |
I mean, the Seiya Hades OVAs were made purely out of nostalgia for the long-time fans, while this new Ranma being streamed on Netflix shows that this new anime is being made for newcomers to enjoy the series as long-time fans, if not maybe even more so. Also, the Seiya Hades OVAs were made just a little over a decade after the Seiya TV anime has finished airing, while the last new Ranma anime (outside of a 2008 one-off made for a Takahashi art exhibition) was back in the mid-90s. Even if you include the later one-off, more time has passed between new Ranma anime than there was between Seiya TV & Seiya Hades.
Also, you know, the Hades OVAs were OVAs, while this new Ranma is a TV series. If all they wanted to do was adapt the final parts of the Ranma manga then they wouldn't need to make it a Netflix-streamed TV series, is all I'm saying. This is being made to also appeal to new viewers, not just old fans, so starting over makes perfect sense.
| MarshalBanana wrote: | | I wonder why Netflix got this, but not Urusei Yatsura. Is it just because this is a bit more well known in the West? |
Sure, I guess, but the new UY & Ranma anime are being made by completely different studios, & more than likely production committees (outside of Shogakukan, of course), so they're going to have completely different intentions behind them, and reach is only one factor.
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TheOnePieceIsReal
Joined: 06 Jul 2024
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:49 pm |
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| Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | JJKS2 had 99 problems, animation was not one of them, no idea of what show people were watching.
If anything the show was so well animated, to hide the fact we were watching 2 action figures clashing, that it was hard to follow thanks to the amount of visual noise on screen.
No idea of how this will result, the series would need like 100 episodes for a proper adaptation, but doubt the animation will be a problem.
Though, Ranma's hair looks more like pink to me.
-Sigh- I would prefer if these remakes would just copy Saint Seiya and just animated the missing arcs leaving the perfectly watchable previous adaptation alone. |
First of all: When you start your comment with the sentence "no idea of what show people were watching" doesn't give me a good first impression. I'm not good with words, but I can tell you that the word in question is not a positive word to use towards your attitude right now.
Second: You do know that pink is a lighter shade of red, right?
Third: You're completely ignoring that the original Ranma has several issues that might make it hard for newcomers to get into. Like the animation which is inconsistent. The large amounts of filler episodes that has nothing to do with the series. etc. It's honestly better to have them remake the series in order to bring in new audiences to the series since the original is outdated. So your "perfectly watchable" comment is more debatable and subjective more then anything.
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Swissman
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:24 pm |
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| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | Third: You're completely ignoring that the original Ranma has several issues that might make it hard for newcomers to get into. Like the animation which is inconsistent. |
Inconsistency in animation never bothered me in older anime because I grew up with shows which had a different chief animator for each single episode, f.e. Urusei Yatsura. I though it was interesting to see why certain episodes felt different from others from a visual standpoint and I still do, so don't make this aspect of og Ranma an "issue" which needs to be fixed in order not to be "outdated" for younger folks like you.
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Covnam
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:34 pm |
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Looks good, though very familiar (as you'd expect at the start). Not sure if this is confirmed to cover the entire manga (even if it's not complete), but hopefully there's a lot of new animated content.
Nice to see so many returning VAs
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Ataru
Joined: 04 Jan 2002
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:42 pm |
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| Lord Geo wrote: | | MarshalBanana wrote: | | I wonder why Netflix got this, but not Urusei Yatsura. Is it just because this is a bit more well known in the West? |
Sure, I guess, but the new UY & Ranma anime are being made by completely different studios, & more than likely production committees (outside of Shogakukan, of course), so they're going to have completely different intentions behind them, and reach is only one factor. |
Ranma was the big TV anime just before Evangelion caught on, so there would be more people aware of Ranma than Urusei Yatsura.
It could have been that Sentai got the UY rights before Netflix or Viz, or just passed altogether cause Viz never showed much interest in UY.
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TheOnePieceIsReal
Joined: 06 Jul 2024
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:42 pm |
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| Swissman wrote: | Inconsistency in animation never bothered me in older anime because I grew up with shows which had a different chief animator for each single episode, f.e. Urusei Yatsura. I though it was interesting to see why certain episodes felt different from others from a visual standpoint and I still do, so don't make this aspect of og Ranma an "issue" which needs to be fixed in order not to be "outdated" for younger folks like you. |
I'll have you know that I'm personally fine with the animation from old school anime like Ranma 1/2 and the likes. Heck I'm currently watching Yu Yu Hakusho right now. Heck I even acknowledge there's charm to be had in old school animation.
With that said the inconsistent animation can still be seen as off putting to many as it doesn't hold up to the standards of modern anime. Which to modern viewers could still be seen as an issue that might turn them off from the series.
Which is where you don't get what I was saying. I was speaking on a broad scale on how others might see the OG series. I never once treated it as a opinion of mine. You on the other hand are putting subjectivity into this by going "Well I like it" which doesn't disprove my point whatsoever. Especially since I brought up NEWCOMERS.
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Triltaison
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:42 pm |
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The original cast was honestly probably my favorite part of the original show, so I'm super stoked to hear them all back. I'll miss the original Tendo and Genma, but having Kappei and Megumi alone would be a blessing. Getting the whole rest of the gang back is an abundance of riches. I wonder who will be Kuno, though. He had 2 voice actors and the original sadly passed away some time ago.
I also am curious about the new dub. The Japanese cast is one of my favorites ever, and the old English dub is one of the ones I could just never enjoy at all. The cast changes didn't help the uneven talent distribution, either. It'd be really nice to have a version of the show I can stand listening to in English finally without twitching in discomfort.
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Swissman
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:01 pm |
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| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | Which is where you don't get what I was saying. I was speaking on a broad scale on how others might see the OG series. |
I totally get what you're saying. The problem is, you talk about possibilities, you use "could", "might", ect., and not about facts.
| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | I never once treated it as a opinion of mine. |
Maybe you should, you know, unless you see yourself as a spokesperson for ALL "newcomers". If you don't, then it's all your assumptions. I know plenty of younger fans who don't care about what you fear might bother them.
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Amritzer
Joined: 24 Jun 2024
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:19 pm |
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| Swissman wrote: | | TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | Which is where you don't get what I was saying. I was speaking on a broad scale on how others might see the OG series. |
I totally get what you're saying. The problem is, you talk about possibilities, you use "could", "might", ect., and not about facts.
| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | I never once treated it as a opinion of mine. |
Maybe you should, you know, unless you see yourself as a spokesperson for ALL "newcomers". If you don't, then it's all your assumptions. I know plenty of younger fans who don't care about what you fear might bother them. |
Look, just don't watch it.
Problem solved.
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TheOnePieceIsReal
Joined: 06 Jul 2024
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:24 pm |
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| Swissman wrote: | | TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | Which is where you don't get what I was saying. I was speaking on a broad scale on how others might see the OG series. |
I totally get what you're saying. The problem is, you talk about possibilities, you use "could", "might", ect., and not about facts.
| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | I never once treated it as a opinion of mine. |
Maybe you should, you know, unless you see yourself as a spokesperson for ALL "newcomers". If you don't, then it's all your assumptions. I know plenty of younger fans who don't care about what you fear might bother them. |
Dude, what are you even arguing with me about?
If people can still see the old animation as an issue then it can still be seen as an issue. Just like how some people might not have an issue with One Piece's pacing while other do. If people can see it as an issue then it can still be seen as an issue.
Also I'm not acting as a spokesperson for "newcomers". I'm just saying that newcomers might have an issue with the old animation because it's inconsistent. Heck I'm sure there are indeed younger fans who don't mind watching older anime. I even said there's charm in those older animes.
Are you even listening to a single word I'm saying? I never devalued the old school animes. I was speaking in a broad term for other groups of people that might not like the inconsistent animation.
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Chiyosuke
Joined: 06 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:42 pm |
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Kinda sad Deen isn't returning. Hell, Sunrise brought them back for that lone OVA we got like 20 years ago.
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Banjo
Joined: 13 Dec 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:51 pm |
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| Triltaison wrote: | | The original cast was honestly probably my favorite part of the original show, so I'm super stoked to hear them all back. I'll miss the original Tendo and Genma, but having Kappei and Megumi alone would be a blessing. Getting the whole rest of the gang back is an abundance of riches. I wonder who will be Kuno, though. He had 2 voice actors and the original sadly passed away some time ago. |
Kuno always been played by Hirotaka Suzuoki the same guy who voices Bright in gundam, Narita Ken ( voice of sesshomaru ) replaced him for Bright so he probably will replace him here too. Koji Tsujitani replaced Suzuoki in 4 episodes because of health issues I believe.. he also died.
Dead JP voices
Happosai - Cologne - Kuno Tatewaki - Ukyo - kuno's father
And some minor characters of course
Alive ones who haven't been confirmed returning or changed yet are
Moose - Kodachi - Tofu seneei - sasuke - gosunkugi
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tinyirnfist0
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:09 pm |
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If it's getting a English dub, I think Shampoo, Cologne and Mousse will be voiced by people who are actually of Chinese descent.
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Swissman
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:43 pm |
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| TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | | Are you even listening to a single word I'm saying? |
Yes, I am. You think inconsistency in an older show like Ranma might be a problem for newcomers and detrimental to modern standards of anime, I don't. Let's just agree to disagree.
| Amritzer wrote: | | Look, just don't watch it. |
Why shouldn't I? I've been a fan of the series since the early 90s. Of course I'll check the new series out. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have any reservations after watching the trailer, does it? I like that most of the original cast is back, but I'm not too fond of the character designs and I wonder if the action scenes will be as impactful as in the original.
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TheSleepyMonkey
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:31 pm |
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| Chiyosuke wrote: | | Kinda sad Deen isn't returning. Hell, Sunrise brought them back for that lone OVA we got like 20 years ago. |
I don't think getting the old staff back would really be that good of a idea. Junji Nishimura's most recent work is Chained Soldier, for instance.
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