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bahamut623



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:57 pm Reply with quote
According to Ain't It Cool News, the Akira movie is "dead as a doornail":
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41417

So mourn or rejoice as you please (probably the latter). It's a shame, it might have actually been cool.
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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:24 pm Reply with quote
bahamut623 wrote:
So mourn or rejoice as you please (probably the latter).

We shall, bahamut623, we shall.
I checked on Google, and it appears Bloody Disgusting are the original source.
I'd like to bring to attention this extract from the BD article:
MrDisgusting wrote:
...not only has Robinson left the project, but Tetsuo and Kaneda's adventure is "dead as a doornail,"...

Shouldn't that read Travis and Kaneda?
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:36 pm Reply with quote
It's been pronounced alive and then dead and then alive again several times since at least 2002.

It's one of those many announced live-action anime projects that I'll just assume is eternally in development hell until they actually start shooting, if they ever start shooting.
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Ausdoerrt



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:51 am Reply with quote
Well, quite hopefully it stays dead. I'm surprised Street Fighter and DB:E weren't enough.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:54 pm Reply with quote
Ausdoerrt wrote:
Well, quite hopefully it stays dead. I'm surprised Street Fighter and DB:E weren't enough.


To me though, both those series were pretty ridiculous to begin with which meant trying to translate them to live action was quite probably doomed to failure. Akira on the other hand strikes me as relatively doable in live action. There's certainly a chance it would have still sucked but I also think it could potentially have been good. That being the case it's a shame they're not going to even try.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:48 pm Reply with quote
I agree, that it was realistic enough to have had a chance to be done right. Personally, I would have liked to see the stuff from the manga that was left out of the movie (without having to actually read the manga) so it the project is dead then I'm slightly disappointed, but Akira was never really one of my favorite films even though I did like it, so I'm sort of apathetic towards it.
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Ausdoerrt



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:03 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
Ausdoerrt wrote:
Well, quite hopefully it stays dead. I'm surprised Street Fighter and DB:E weren't enough.


To me though, both those series were pretty ridiculous to begin with which meant trying to translate them to live action was quite probably doomed to failure. Akira on the other hand strikes me as relatively doable in live action. There's certainly a chance it would have still sucked but I also think it could potentially have been good. That being the case it's a shame they're not going to even try.


Well, Street Fighter is a game adaptation, so I guess you're right.

Dragonball may not be the smartest anime ever, but the fact that it managed to spawn hordes of imitation projects that are aired and popular even today says something about its quality and its value to the anime culture. Although, true enough, it'd be difficult to make an appropriate homage to it in live-action, and the director was obviously not up to the challenge.
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:55 am Reply with quote
Ausdoerrt wrote:
Well, quite hopefully it stays dead. I'm surprised Street Fighter and DB:E weren't enough.


I never seen Akira before, but I think America has seen enough butchered movies for one year. They butchered Speed Racer, Dragon Ball, Astro Boy and even Street Fighter. Honestly, the last action that needs to happen is another great anime being butchered and completly ruined.
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Ausdoerrt



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:23 pm Reply with quote
^ Haven't seen Astro Boy movie. I'm scared to even imagine it though.

Speed racer was considerable better that the other movie adaptations. I've watched it twice and have no complaints - it kept the original spirit of the American adaptation of the anime, and is a good family movie. One wouldn't expect more.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:25 pm Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
I never seen Akira before, but I think America has seen enough butchered movies for one year. They butchered Speed Racer, Dragon Ball, Astro Boy and even Street Fighter. Honestly, the last action that needs to happen is another great anime being butchered and completly ruined.


Do you seriously not see any kind of difference between anime like Dragon Ball, Astro Boy and Speed Racer and stuff like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, or Ninja Scroll?
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Boomer





PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:48 am Reply with quote
Kruszer wrote:
I agree, that it was realistic enough to have had a chance to be done right. Personally, I would have liked to see the stuff from the manga that was left out of the movie (without having to actually read the manga) so it the project is dead then I'm slightly disappointed, but Akira was never really one of my favorite films even though I did like it, so I'm sort of apathetic towards it.

I would go a step further and say that Akira sucked bananas and is one of the most overrated, undeservedly lauded animes ever made. If a live-action version of it were made, it would end up looking like live-action movies such as Babylon AD or Ultraviolet, overwrought steaming heaps of dung that are crammed with ideas containing both scientific and fantastic elements with no regard for internal logic or consistency, visual subtlety, or character development. That is what I hated about Akira, and the source material just cries out to be turned into a sci-fi dud that would make Aeon Flux seem like the pinnacle of artistry. So, yeah, I couldn't care less. Now, if they decided to make a live-action movie out of any part of the Ghost in the Shell franchise, I would be hopping mad.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:13 am Reply with quote
Boomer wrote:

I would go a step further and say that Akira sucked bananas and is one of the most overrated, undeservedly lauded animes ever made. If a live-action version of it were made, it would end up looking like live-action movies such as Babylon AD or Ultraviolet, overwrought steaming heaps of dung that are crammed with ideas containing both scientific and fantastic elements with no regard for internal logic or consistency, visual subtlety, or character development. That is what I hated about Akira, and the source material just cries out to be turned into a sci-fi dud that would make Aeon Flux seem like the pinnacle of artistry. So, yeah, I couldn't care less. Now, if they decided to make a live-action movie out of any part of the Ghost in the Shell franchise, I would be hopping mad.


I see it as the opposite. I kinda feel that if Ghost in the Shell gets made live action, it would probably copy the feel of Ultraviolet. But Akira always felt like an animated version of Blade Runner to me, and would have probably kept the same aesthetic in a live action version (my hopes anyway). But in reality, most sci-fi live action anime adaptations would turn out to be an Ultraviolet-clone. I mean, what is the live action Bubblegum Crisis going to look like? Rolling Eyes

As for Akira being over rated, personally I think it deserves it. The animation quality is outstanding, even for today. The soundtrack is amazing. The story... well yeah, there's some serious story and pacing issues. The manga is split into 6 volumes, and believe me, its a much better story. But the anime only adapted the first two plus bits and pieces of the 6th volume, cutting out huge amounts of character development, back story, etc (supposedly the live action was going take more source material from the manga, but now who knows). But its still an anime classic. Akira is what helped launch anime fandom in this country.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:00 am Reply with quote
David.Seth wrote:
Boomer wrote:

I would go a step further and say that Akira sucked bananas and is one of the most overrated, undeservedly lauded animes ever made. If a live-action version of it were made, it would end up looking like live-action movies such as Babylon AD or Ultraviolet, overwrought steaming heaps of dung that are crammed with ideas containing both scientific and fantastic elements with no regard for internal logic or consistency, visual subtlety, or character development. That is what I hated about Akira, and the source material just cries out to be turned into a sci-fi dud that would make Aeon Flux seem like the pinnacle of artistry. So, yeah, I couldn't care less. Now, if they decided to make a live-action movie out of any part of the Ghost in the Shell franchise, I would be hopping mad.



As for Akira being over rated, personally I think it deserves it. The animation quality is outstanding, even for today. The soundtrack is amazing. The story... well yeah, there's some serious story and pacing issues. The manga is split into 6 volumes, and believe me, its a much better story. But the anime only adapted the first two plus bits and pieces of the 6th volume, cutting out huge amounts of character development, back story, etc (supposedly the live action was going take more source material from the manga, but now who knows). But its still an anime classic. Akira is what helped launch anime fandom in this country.


Oh absolutely, I've seens tons of anime movies, and AKIRA is still easily up there in terms of animation quality. There's very few things that manage to look as good, maybe stuff like Macross DYRL and The Five Star Stories movie. I've only read the first volume of the manga, however, but I'm biased, I usually prefer anime more.
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Ausdoerrt



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:00 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
I never seen Akira before, but I think America has seen enough butchered movies for one year. They butchered Speed Racer, Dragon Ball, Astro Boy and even Street Fighter. Honestly, the last action that needs to happen is another great anime being butchered and completly ruined.


Do you seriously not see any kind of difference between anime like Dragon Ball, Astro Boy and Speed Racer and stuff like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, or Ninja Scroll?


The problem, I think, is that the Hollywood directors don't see the difference. Plus, Akira is closer to Dragonball than it is to GiTS, and AstroBoy is more than you give it credit for.
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I see it as the opposite. I kinda feel that if Ghost in the Shell gets made live action, it would probably copy the feel of Ultraviolet. But Akira always felt like an animated version of Blade Runner to me, and would have probably kept the same aesthetic in a live action version (my hopes anyway). But in reality, most sci-fi live action anime adaptations would turn out to be an Ultraviolet-clone. I mean, what is the live action Bubblegum Crisis going to look like? Rolling Eyes

Bubblegum Crisis is actually an animated Blade Runner. The former is directly influenced by the latter. That's why the band in BGC was called Priss and the Replicants. So, if done well, a live-action Bubblegum Crisis would look a lot like Blade Runner.
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